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I firmly believe protestors have a right to shut down busy highways, freeways, places of business and higher education.
  • Lashing out is by default at everything, there isn't target selection really, because if you select specific targets you open yourself up to increased resistance.

    There is nothing left other than that this need for change, and that you have some bodily power to fight for it.

    You are trying to argue on civility, cooperation, and still raising awareness, the protesters have determined there is no civility, and there is no one listening and acting on it, so why should they care. They specifically are complaining to everyone, maybe they specifically want to hurt, damage, or sabotage everything.

    The highway might be the most destructive target depending on where you are, precisely because people like you who cost 100s of dollars per hour, and shipments, and everyone is stuck. Like the defect is diffuse, but you should know that the more you control the more it ultimately hurts if things go wrong (not in the bodily but financial sense).

    It's great that you do what you can and you likely have a lot more power if you can push for things within the structures you are in, but you must realize their ultimate power is in their bodys and in what destruction they can cause with them, because they don't have those structures, that agency, but of course not the pressure and work that comes with it either.

    The Walmart parking lot shuts down 1 Walmart, the courthouse 1 courthouse, the right street shuts down 10s maybe hundreds of places (at least partially), it binds more police and personnel, and it's hard for the city to prepare for. It's the right move if your mindset is to cause damage, which I think is just as reasonable as trying to use the power you have inside of the systems that already exist, especially for people that don't have that much power.

    What I'm trying to say is maybe you understand how you percive the world, but there is legitimate ambiguity and differences of circumstance that lead to also completely normal, but different from yours, perceptions of the world, and that maybe instead of trying to defend yourself you just might need to accept that. Like there should be room to have compassion even for people that don't have compassion for you because they are still human beings.

  • I firmly believe protestors have a right to shut down busy highways, freeways, places of business and higher education.
  • You know the goal is not to educate but to apply pressure sometimes. Everyone feels if an inner city is continually and or randomly brought to a standstill even in part. The point is to hurt, and if things stand still you just sit there in your car while the business and government around you start to lose "productivity" or in other words control. If this is done enough they have to change their behavior because we will keep going and they will continue to lose control. That's the hope at least. And for climate specifically what good does the childcare do if the world your children grow up in stays on it's current course on climate. I sorta assume you know all this as well. It's fine for you to want to live your life and for stuff to be annoying, just don't disparage those who just want to lash out because lashing out is a perfectly reasonable reaction. Not for you maybe, but for the once that have that reaction right now, know they are fighting for you as well.

  • What is YOUR top 10 list of all time best video games?
  • Separated into top 5 and the rest.

    • Slay the Spire
    • BeamNg
    • Trackmania (not any of the games specifically more the concept)
    • Disco Elysium
    • Portal 2

    • Balatro probably
    • FTL
    • Mario Kart (8 and/or Wii)
    • Maybe Baldus gate 3
    • Thalos principle 2

    The hearthstone battlegrounds auto battler mode is perhaps also in here but hearthstone itself I've never played.

  • Lefty Nemesis
  • I'm having a hard time understanding the perspective of someone who believes that lefties would benefit by having the world's largest army and nuclear arsenal under a government backsliding all the way into theocratic authoritarianism.

    Well some leftists would loose a lot obviously, specifically those in or directly around the US, but fascist regimes are not very sustainable, and certainly loose the ability to ally and coerce over time.

    And This loss of ability to project power (by the largest and thus likely the most destructive institution of coercive power) is what I see as a critical step towards a communist or just any different way of economic and political organization on a global scale.

    I don't want a facist US regime, I would never tell any leftists to advocate for one, but I would tell them to prepare or flee nonetheless because it is still likely, or at least possible that it happens (again).

    I'd much rather have a reasonably progressive US voluntarily give up power in good faith, curtail her own economic might to allow her citizens a good life and our shared world a sustainable economy and ecology but given that among many other titles, she also holds the title of the foremost petrostate, and at least one of the largest Tax heavens, in the world I unfortunately don't really see that happening, I still hope for it, but as far as I understand powerful interests aligning and climate change, the world economy... it just doesn't seem particularly likely.

    I'm in Germany so not anywhere extremely tied into the US, but at the same time both are imperial core, there is a lot of cooperation, I would likely feel a lot of the secondary effects, but I also believe perhaps naively that not all of the world would , blindly follow the US in it's slow march towards fascism. And with each institution peeling of from US hegemony there is at least a chance to throw a big political lever in the rightish direction, whether it be the EU, IMF, Nato or whatever else, a movement that at the moment is blocked largely by US and perhaps wider western but also sometimes chinese or russian imperialist positions. And of course the Capital that these states (actually) represent.

    Like step one is a little putsch, step two is murdering all your political opponents, then it is time to invade neighbors to steal resources. Yes, the US is already invading countries to steal resources, no, I don't think having an authoritarian cancelling voting will help reduce that any. What am I missing?

    All of this is already happening anyways, murdering political opponents internally as well as outside of the US,furthering climate change, destabilizing and undermining trust etc. again sliding into fascism is not what I want, but even a fascist US would be bound by physical, organizational, and social circumstances, and thus for the wider world likely less catastrophic than you might believe it'd be if you were raised or resided in the US.

    I can't claim for certain that the US is having a Weimar moment, and I cant be certain that a US fascism in the modern era would be shorter and less gruesome, I also can't say it'll be better afterwards, but I feel all of these things to not be completely outrageous predictions, because as leftists probably should, I can try to interpret the historical Weimar moment, and the current political landscape...

    Just fuck it, ramp up climate change and war, get it over with, and pray socialism crawls out of the rubble?

    Well again, ramp up in war and climate change are already happening, and in my world the wars are already the 20th century ideas as well as their capital, lashing out against 21st century thinking, changes in circumstances, and the very real onset of this era of climate change scarcity that we are entering.

    So to some extent from my point of view yes, you don't have to keep trying to be a democracy with institutions and foundational texts as well as family hierarchies from the 18th century, that were made and changed by your political enemies, you can fight for (but hopefully mostly against) the fascism that the powers at be try to impose upon you, but without just believing the popular vote, and the systems it enables, will save you here.

    If you crawl out of an actual civil war esque partial collapse as hardened syndicalists, or if you can get rid of FPTP and establish a democratic socialist party that is able to actually make international agreements in good faith, for me it mostly doesn't matter. I'd prefer the second if I look at the human cost of both options, but because the first option I'd guess could be faster in implementation, and the result would be similar from an international perspective, I don't completely hate it, very literally I could likely "live with it", precisely because I likely won't have to live under it, much more than anyone from the US could.

    Essentially I don't identify with the US emotionally, I have almost no image of her institutions being good, so I can compartmentalize and write off that particular nation state much easier. For me a fascist or civil war ridden US that is short lived and likely reemerges with better bones might actually be very similar to one that transforms more amicably.

    I can just say suffering is going to be inevitable, but that the suffering to change things for the better, to make them work sustainably, to make them work for the people, is the one i hope Americans actually still strive toward deep down, because I by pure circumstance don't need to suffer in that same way, I will suffer differently and for a different reason, fighting essentially the same fight sure, but from a different position with different levers to pull and different pressures to withstand.

    We had fascism here openly 80 years ago, it's still here trying it's hardest to grab power and survive, but perhaps obviously it's fastest decent, its quickest downfall was almost the exact same time as it's most emancipated period, in fact they followed each other in lockstep.

  • Lefty Nemesis
  • While I agree largely with your conclusion that anti progressive ideas are pushed to undermine progressive spaces, I don't really agree with how you get there and with the examples you choose to arrive at that conclusion. There obviously are actual bad actors, and actual hegemony to get these bad actors into being, but there is also a lot of real people, actually still learning about the topics, or just plainly with a different perspective on some of the issues that you might be discussing.

    For it to be an ideology that is self consistent leftism actually needs differences and disagreement, or said in another way: if we were to prescribe beliefs instead of trying to teach them we'd also just be trying to build our "own" authoritarian hegemony. I can invoke successes of or defend the CCP and the soviets just as I can invoke successes of the US or EU or India realizing that all states are fundamentally bad, still sometimes perhaps by accident they do good things. And that examples and mental shortcuts, as well as actual experiments that might be of a socialist nature, are just what they are argumentative tools.

    I've been called a tankie just because I see the downfall or backsliding of the US as good thing and don't really accept that china would be as bad as the US has been for the last 40 years or so. Which is perfectly normal for someone who doesn't really reap the benefits of US hegemony, and sort of just ranks authoritarian institutions by size(strength)(wealth) to arrive at a measure of subjective dislike.

    It's almost similar to someone calling me a tankie because I purchase Pepsi instead of coca cola on that given day, when we all know I should make my own tea or at least just buy the supermarket/local brand to begin with.

    I don't know where you are and what kind of people you meet on a regular basis but to me the simple and fast ways of understanding other people almost never hold true, most of us humans just lead to complicated lives to easily subjectify us. And honestly I wish most leftists would not try to subjectify other people to begin with.

  • Smoko rule
  • German and potentially other train stations have smoking areas indicated by a yellow line on the ground, circling the area.

    They are frequently completely ignored with some people lighting their cigarette while the train they are exiting is still opening its doors.

  • Which programming languages do you know?
  • Python

    If you count being able write passable snippets: Java, JavaScript, C,C++,maybe Matlab and bash

  • What is your favorite movie theater?
  • I was at a theater for the first time in a long time recently and it was definitely my favorite to visit so far. "Zoo Palast" in Berlin, the interior/the entire vibe was great. The building screams 70s even though it was renovated/rebuilt 2010-2013 so they did a great job there. I can't speak to video or audio quality because I just don't have a a reference but the movie sounded and looked good to me. Also it has a lot of original language showings which is always nice to see here instead of just dubs.

  • China launches world’s largest electric container ship with 50 MWh battery
  • Probably because trains are limited in both weight and volume compared to ships and also less efficient. If you have this short route and know it'll need this amount of cargo shipped it likely makes sense.

    This single ship can carry more containers than any train could be expected to pull, likely by at least one order of magnitude.

    All in all I'd guess the advantages are roughly:

    • Reduced staff
    • reduced energy use (land based shipping is less efficient almost by default)
    • no need for infrastructure except ports (if you assume there is no train line or this shipping would move existing lines over capacity building this ship is likely cheaper or at least in line with 300km of rail)
    • simpler logistics (loading / unloading)

    Disadvantages:

    • Speed (a train would likely move at 3-5x the speed)

    I would also not expect the risk for catastrophic fires to be all that high. This ship has the batteries be containers. So once you've designed a container that is a large battery, you've already spent so much that a proper BMS including proper battery fire suppression as well as proper breakers/contractors are things you've built into it without even thinking about cost. The separation provided by building containers as the battery is the next line of defence if one container fails spectacularly, it also allows the batteries to be maintained on land, much cheaper than if they were part of the ship.

  • FilePizza - Your files, delivered.
  • If you are inclined to do things that way there's also the python Fileserver $ python3 -m http.server 8080

  • We Can Do This!
  • But if absolutely everyone gets all of that for free, there won't be enough people working just to sustain the ones who won't.

    This isn't really a reasonable conclusion though, why could the people doing that work not be incentivised, by being rewarded in some other way than just a bare minimum livelihood? Why would they abandon their station to just do nothing instead ? Doesn't good protection enable the worker to negotiate their work to be fulfilling, rewarding and well compensated? Are the workers not just cogs in the machine if they don't get that power to actually negotiate? ....

    It makes no sense to assume nothing would get done if we just had enough to live no matter what, the argument that we'll make more and better things seems much more likely to me. Both are somewhat unknowable until we just do right by people and see it working.

  • Would you rather live in a big city or a small town?
  • Big city for sure, I don't want to need a car and I do want to be able to get groceries 23.40 at a Saturday night. It's nice to have a group of 500k+ people actively trying to supply for all of the needs and wants I might have.

  • BMDV - Unabhängige Expertengruppe legt Ergebnis zu THC-Grenzwert im Straßenverkehr vor
  • Um mal ein spezifisches bsp. zu geben bei mir war ~18h nach Dauerkonsum (~1g/Abend) der wert bei 1,7. Ist wie andre schon angesprochen haben durchaus auch abhängig vom Körper. Grundsätzlich ist aber durch den nichtlinearen Abbau laut hanfverband in der Größenordnung

    Wert=Startwert*(1/(Zeit/h))

    eben die größte Ungewissheit und 'Ungerechtigkeit' in den werten nahe null. 3,5 ist somit ein deutlicher schritt weg von "Bestrafung durch die Hintertür" in Richtung "Verkehrstüchtigkeit Evaluieren ohne eine Verdächtigung von Konsumenten grundsätzlich in kauf zu nehmen". Praktisch heißt das für quasi alle Konsumenten das Fahrtauglichkeit(per Gesetz) pi mal Daumen nach ~24h wieder gegeben ist wahrscheinlich früher. Natürlich ist dieses schätzen grundsätzlich nicht wirklich 'richtig' wird aber wohl bei den meisten auch beim Alkohol sehr gängig sein, und tests regelmäßig vor dem fahren zu machen geht ja auch irgendwo an der Lebensrealität der Menschen (heutzutage) vorbei.

  • What is the most difficult problem that you have fixed in linux?
  • So I mostly fried the SSD by using it to write and rewrite ML checkpoints and logs, this in turn made the device read only and I somehow managed to migrate to a different SSD probably using clonezilla or something, but it messed up the bootloader so I installed refind in a new partition, configured it and voila it works. It's scary because you need to do everything without seeing your system even half alive anywhere along the process, but it's not actually hard, just copying data and installing/configuring a bootloader. But for a then 20year old at his more or less first job my head was on fire for the 1.5 days this took.

    By far the most difficult single thing that I've ever had to fix that actually had to do with the system.

    I now don't flood my SSDs with data that is constantly rewritten.

  • „Das Sterben muss ein Ende haben“: Eine Bundestagsdebatte, die man gehört haben sollte
  • Einwanderung ist also Kolonialisierung? Wird Europa dann auch gerade kolonialisiert? Frage für einen extrem rechten Freund bei der AfD.

    Nein Kolonialisierung ist ein spezifische Art Einwanderung die wir immerhin von der Ästhetik her nicht mehr mögen in der modernen Welt. Das heißt nicht das jede Einwanderung Kolonialisierung ist. Ich würde Kolonisierung lose definieren als: Politisch / Wirtschaftlich gesteuerte und motivierte Einwanderung mit dem ziel und der realistischen Aussicht der (teilweise) politischen Kontrolle des zu Kolonialisierenden Gebietes oft einhergehend mit militärischer Gewalt.

    Im Gegensatz hierzu ist Flucht migration nach Europa wohl kaum belegbar gesteuert, und hat keinen Anspruch auf politische Kontrolle und auch genau-sowenig realistische Aussicht hierauf.

    Ein erster Grundstein wurde dafür beim ersten Zionistenkongress (1897 in Basel) unter der Führung Theodor Herzls gelegt; der Plan einer Staatsgründung nahm durch die britische Balfour-Deklaration von 1917 konkretere Formen an. Von 1920 bis 1948 bestand das Völkerbundsmandat für Palästina, das nach der Auflösung des Osmanischen Reiches Großbritannien übertragen worden war. Eine verstärkte jüdische Einwanderung und der Aufbau protostaatlicher Strukturen führten in dieser Zeit zu ersten Konflikten mit der arabischen Bevölkerung. Der UN-Teilungsplan für Palästina von 1947 hatte das Ziel, diese beizulegen, doch wurde er von arabischer Seite abgelehnt. Dennoch erfolgte am 14. Mai 1948 die israelische Unabhängigkeitserklärung, und unmittelbar danach begann der erste Palästinakrieg durch den militärischen Angriff der arabischen Nachbarstaaten auf den jungen Staat. Die folgenden Jahrzehnte der Geschichte Israels sind vom andauernden arabisch-israelischen Konflikt entscheidend geprägt. wiki:Israel

    Da diese zionistische Kolonialisierung eben von beginn an auf die Schaffung eines überwiegend ethnisch/religiös Jüdischem Staates zielte ist sie anders als der überwiegende teil des Kolonialismus (Zeitalters), welche zu beginn oft auf Missionierung und Später hauptsächlich auf wirtschaftliche Extraktion zielen. Auch aufgrund der Duldung durch das Fallende Britische Imperium und den relativ späten Zeitpunkt ist die spezielle Ausführung von Israel eben deutlich vom mainstream Kolonialismus entfernt, allerdings mmn. eben nicht vom Konzept an sich.
    Speziell zwischen 1917 und 1948 kann man durchaus von Kolonialisierung sprechen, Ja Kolonialisierung mit nationalistischem (anstatt Imperialistischem) Anspruch und nicht imperial oder vollständig selbst gesteuert, sondern teilweise fremdbestimmt, aber trotzdem Kolonialisierung. Das ist durchaus auch erkennbar daran das einige der siedelnden und das Siedeln unterstützenden Organisationen den Vorgang selber als Kolonialisierung bezeichneten. Das Rückkehrgesetz und der Siedlungsbau sind die modernen Überbleibsel dieser weitestgehend abgeschlossenen Kolonialisierung.

    Imperialistisch ist eher eine Einordnung des modernen Israel aus einer Wertschöpfungsketten bzw. Systemischen Sicht
    wiki:Imperial Core

  • „Das Sterben muss ein Ende haben“: Eine Bundestagsdebatte, die man gehört haben sollte
  • The late 19th century saw the rise of Zionism in Europe, a movement seeking a Jewish homeland, which garnered British support. After World War I, the Ottomans were defeated and the Mandate for Palestine was set up in 1920. Jewish immigration to Mandatory Palestine increased considerably, leading to intercommunal conflict between Jews and Arabs. The 1947 UN Partition Plan triggered a civil war between the two groups, which saw the expulsion and flight of most of Palestine's predominantly Arab population. Wikipedia (Israel)

    Speziell dein zweiter Punkt steht hier mmn. sehr in Frage, nur weil die Besatzungsmacht UK hinter dem zionistischen Projekt steht und viel Land durchaus legal unter britischem system gekauft wurde heißt nicht das diese durch das zionistische Projekt gesteuerte und von Europa teilweise gestützte Einwanderung keine Kolonialisierung darstellt.

    Aus meiner Sicht ist der partitunirungsplan der UN eher eine Post hoc Rationalisierung der im vorausgegangen Kolonialisierung als ein gutes Argument gegen israelischen Imperialismus.

  • Noah, get the boat
  • There is no revolution coming to save you. We have to save ourselves the difficult way, through voting and incremental steps. Belief in a sudden revolution that will make everything better is childish.

    Saving ourselves the difficult way you say pushing the quite dangerous status quo thinking that is leading us into the very catastrophe that you somehow don't see coming. Both climate change and late stage capitalism are real problems and potentially apocalyptic in size.

    That is going to cause revolution (with revolution being the fundamental change of culture and social relations) wether we are prepared for it or not. Not because of some vague march of history or whatever but because changes in environment impact our thinking and the viability and security of systems that are currently running the world, and because large changes in environment are coming for all of us.

    Trying to just work within the structure to change the superstructure is similarly naive as just waiting idly for revolution. The neoliberal revolution for example was able to change the superstructure in a lasting way fairly recently and fairly quickly, because they were positioning themselves in anticipation of crisis, and not because they were playing only by the rules in the structure.

    Yes voting for the "correct" candidates is important in some ways but it completely misses the importance and scale of problems to come and what is needed to protect ourselves as best as we can from their impact. Americans can trust the Democrats fully and be disappointed again and again, but they can also decide to build and change their political landscape in other ways while still voting dem as long as that's the appropriate harm reduction vote.

    Voting and incremental change are the "easy" parts, building and protecting for yourself and your community, so that you and your loved ones are able to "not let a good crisis go to waste" is the kind of revolutionary pre figuration that we need right now. There will be violence either way we might as well try to use it to change things for the better for more people afterwards and during.

    I don't know how anyone sane could look at the state of the world and think they a) there's some revolution on the horizon, and b) it would result in a better world order if it happened.

    To a.) giving myself the presumably 60+ years until my death there is certainly a (couple of) revolution(s) before the horizon To b.) yes the worst people and institutions you can probably imagine will use everything in their power to make everything worse which is exactly why there needs to be real resistance which the Democrats aren't because they are part of the structure and largely don't have your interests at heart. They could be changed for the better until then, but while they are moving slowly something else needs to be built as well.

  • China puts trust in AI to maintain largest high-speed rail network on Earth
  • Also some application of similar tech has worked itself into industrial machines and factories over the last 10 years or so, it's downright ubiquitous for anything that's expensive and requires maintenance/ upkeep. Also it's well intertwined with the ML tech we see consumer facing nowadays, the image recognition of 4+ years ago was made to recognize issues with materials, unexpected growing patterns, anomalies, as well as recognition and counting etc.. before we got just point your camera and it'll tell you what you're looking at.

  • Bundesregierung enthält sich: EU plant mehr Arbeitnehmerrechte – FDP stellt sich dagegen
  • Man kriegt ja von der Schule nur neoliberales denken beigebracht, und wird dann in eine Welt geworfen die kaum noch andres zulässt. Ich glaube das die Mehrzahl der Abiturienten nicht genügend politische bzw. Philosophische Grundlagen haben um den Neoliberalismus überhaupt als Ideologie zu erkennen, anstatt ihn ausschließlich als Normalität wahrzunehmen.

  • Yes, heat pumps slash emissions even if powered by a dirty grid | Installing a heat pump now is better for the climate, even on U.S. electricity generated mostly by fossil fuels. Here’s why
  • The thing is heat from the outside gets moved inside of the house using a heat pump, and to facilitate this movement you need somewhere between 1/2 and 1/4 of the energy you end up moving. E.g. a heat pump with COP (coefficient of performance) of 4 would move 4kW of heat into your house and use 1kW of electric energy to accomplish this. Gas by comparison moves 4kW of gas to your house and burns it there to get 4kW of heat.

    So you could burn a bit more than 1kW of gas in a modern gas electric plant, turn it into electricity and use it to run a heat pump and you would end up emitting less CO2, the real world grid might skew that worse because generally you don't end up burning coal to heat housing but you might still use it for electricity. So generally even though it might be unintuitive the more complicated and lossy way to heat your home (the heat pump powered by fossil powered electricity) , is the more effective one compared to burning the same fossil fuel directly because you use the heat pump to capture heat from the environment.

  • why you gotta rule me like that

    src: Vol. 5, Ch. 56 Bocchi the rock!

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    Deutschlandticket: Das 49-Euro-Ticket soll 2024 nicht teurer werden
    www.spiegel.de Deutschlandticket: Das 49-Euro-Ticket soll 2024 nicht teurer werden

    Das Deutschlandticket soll dieses Jahr nicht teurer werden. Darauf haben sich die Verkehrsminister der Länder bei einer Sonderkonferenz verständigt.

    Deutschlandticket: Das 49-Euro-Ticket soll 2024 nicht teurer werden

    Was andres wäre auch wieder ne mini Katastrophe gewesen

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    How to check if we are reaching Utopia

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    [article] 25% passenger increase on regional rail from DB-Regio after the introduction of the Deutschlandticket ~ Deutschlandticket: 25 Prozent mehr Fahrgäste im Juni
    www.zdf.de Deutschlandticket: 25 Prozent mehr Fahrgäste im Juni

    Das Deutschlandticket beschert der Bahn deutlich mehr Fahrgäste. Im Juni gab es laut DB-Regio-Chefin Palla einen Zuwachs von 25 Prozent.

    Deutschlandticket: 25 Prozent mehr Fahrgäste im Juni

    The Deutschlandticket has brought the railway significantly more passengers on regional services. In June, there was an increase of 25 per cent, according to DB-Regio boss Evelyn Palla.

    Following the introduction of the Deutschlandticket, the number of passengers on Deutsche Bahn's local trains has risen by around a quarter, according to DB-Regio boss Evelyn Palla.

    In June, the number of passengers was 25 per cent higher than in April, Palla told the "Redaktionsnetzwerk Deutschland" (RND). The Deutschlandticket is "already a great success". Since 1 May, travellers have been able to use public transport throughout Germany for 49 euros a month.

    Politicians and railways report hundreds of thousands of new customers since the introduction of the Deutschlandticket.

    Longer distances with regional trains

    Passengers on DB regional trains had also travelled "significantly longer distances", especially the excursion routes towards the sea and mountains were very popular during the holiday season. In some regions, "people travel as much as in the 9-euro summer", Palla told RND with reference to the discounted monthly ticket offered last year from June to August.

    The monthly travel pass, which is valid throughout Germany, is "simple, inexpensive, ecologically sensible and digital", Palla continued.

    She also appealed to the federal and state governments to keep the monthly price of 49 euros stable in the coming year. She added that DB Regio would like the price to "remain affordable" and give "many people access to daily mobility". Source: AFP Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)

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