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Totalitarians, fascists and other scary governments prosecute you without telling you what you did, and everybody agrees that this is an evil practice. But now it's normal and accepted on social media

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  • Such petty sniveling mindgames are the bedrock upon which our magnificent culture is founded.

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  • That's rather beside my point. I addressed prosecution without explanation.

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  • My point was the indecency of prosecution without explanation.

    It's impractical too, to boot somebody without telling them why, as somebody else in this thread pointed out.

    Another person in this thread suggested that such discussions are wasted effort. That such discussion, and the healthy society it engenders, is not the aim of those in control. (Ie the mods' bosses). That they simply want max control for min cost.

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  • My original point was the indecency of prosecution without explanation, actually.

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  • Well we technically provide free labor too. I mean the whole conversation was built by us. The whole system was built to service the necessary stuff that we provide.

    Yeah, the modlogs are a step up for sure.

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  • Good discussions happen in the meme subs which is kinda ironic.

    I've noticed that too. It's like a forest fire (high popularity, enshittification?) went through there and now healthy stuff grows. Probably a cyclic thing.

    What we need is truly niche subs. Which by definition must be hard to access.

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  • So decency is out the window. We are just participants in our own mindfuckery.

    I guess we need to find the "most free" Lemmy instance. Are there reviews?

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  • Ok maybe I did the wrong word. You get my point tho.

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  • They should offer an explanation pinned to the top of the conversation tree. They should be clear and upfront. That's the pro-community thing to do.

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  • (Does anybody actually read the post anymore?)

    I addressed the act of prosecution without explanation. To remove a post without telling the person why they removed it. To tell them what rule was broken, or spirit contradicted, or even views offended. Anything!

    But to just remove a post without conversation. That's just crappy. And everybody agrees that it's damn crappy. But it's considered normal now. Which is crazy.

    That's what I want to discuss.

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  • You know what's appropriate, the moderator knows what's appropriate, and anybody who disagrees is wrong.

    And anybody who asks for an explanation is just trolling.

    That's a rather massive and arrogant assumption.

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  • So it's just efficient? Ok.

    Explaining your actions may be the right (prosocial?) thing to do but right is not the point. Control is the point.

    And 99% of the people here never say anything deviant enough to get censored over anyway. So what's a few edge cases.

    That's kinda cynical, which I can appreciate.

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  • We are censored and banned. This is the form of prosecution to which I refer. This is obvious. Let's not quibble over semantics.

    If you will read my post, I do not refer to the prosecution. I refer to prosecution without explanation.

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  • But that does not address my point. My point was that it is evil to "disinvite" without explanation.

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  • Seeing as how this is a conversation involving us, doesn't that make it "our house"? I mean without us, the whole point of the "house" ceases to exist.

    Think about that.

    But back to my actual point. Please.

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  • How does being a moderator make one an expert on common decency?

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  • Penalizing a transgressor.

    (The penalty being removing a reply or post. Or ban)

    (The transgression being contradicting a rule, the spirit of the community or the will of the moderator)

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  • Come on. It literally fits the definition.

    But instead of wallowing in semantic quibbles, let's address my actual point.

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  • When your post is removed, that's literally suppression of speech. Therefore it falls under the term "censorship". I feel pedantic to drive that into the ground like this. But how is this not clear?

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  • It isn't an evil practice because evil people practice it. It's just an evil practice.

    Can we agree on that?