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  • No, veganism as a conclusion is a combination of facts and basic moral understanding, principles like "live and let live", "do no harm", and the golden rule, do unto others as you would have them do to you. If you're a psychopath who doesn't care how much harm, death, and suffering is caused in order to get sensory pleasure, I probably can't convince you why veganism is worthwhile

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  • The difference between veganism and religion is that one is based on facts, the other is not.

    • It's true that other species of animals are sentient, they have nervous systems similar enough to ours that we know they can feel pleasure and pain.
    • It's true that we kill billions of them per year.
    • It's true that the vast majority of them are factory farmed (74% worldwide, 99% in the US).
    • It's true that humans at all stages of life can thrive on a properly planned vegan diet, according to most major health organizations.
    • It's true that animal agriculture is extremely inefficient and loses a lot of calories from crops being put towards feeding animals (see: trophic levels)
    • It's true that animal agriculture has a huge impact on the environment compared to feeding crops directly to humans.

    so get out of here with that nonsense that veganism is religious zealotry. I don't have time to cite a source for each point, but they're all super easily verified. Veganism is looking at the impact of your choices with clear eyes and choosing compassion over personal pleasure. It's choosing to live and let live, rather than forcing death and misery on other species because you like the taste of their flesh and secretions.

  • https://awellfedworld.org/scarcity-vs-distribution/ yupp people want to pin it on climate change, which is a big problem, but don't want to see how big an impact eating animals has on this stuff. Animal ag is terrible for the environment (emissions, deforestation, water use, and land destruction in non-forested areas), it steals crops out of our mouths, and it's torturing and murdering literally incomprehensible numbers of innocent animals each year.

    If you're reading this and still eat animal products, this is the sign that it's time to stop. Please, the animals, the earth, and our own species can't take it much longer, they should have never had to take any in the first place.

  • The scientific evidence we have so far all points to cats being able to thrive on a properly balanced/supplemented vegan diet. Cats need certain nutrients in certain ratios, whether they're from animal flesh or not doesn't really matter in the cats digestive track. I can link some of the studies if you can't find them (check out the vegancats subreddit wiki, fuck reddit but it is a well compiled resource linking the available evidence). As usual with science more research is needed but the evidenece is already very strong in favor of nutritionally complete vegan kibble.

    The arguments against nutritionally complete vegan kibble also apply to non-vegan kibble, so you're either against all kibble or you're a hypocrite.

  • If you didn't realize the importance of privacy after the patriot act and seeing the continuation of right wing authoritarianism, it's definitely time to get on board asap. Get yourself and your community on signal instead of texts and tuta or proton instead of regular email, use a vpn (mullvad or proton are solid), and depending on what kinds of actions you may or may not be interested in, learn how to use tails os and tor (try to find a copy of the darknetmarket bible for a good intro)

    Edit: simplex is a good alternative to signal too, and if you have a google pixel, grapheneos is solid. Next time you're getting a new phone, get a used pixel and install it. On your computer, there's a lot of telemetry and sketchy stuff windows does, either research and disable that or switch to linux if you can