hawkwind @ hawkwind @lemmy.management

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And it’s only a matter of time until that detection can be evaded. The knife cuts both ways. Automation and the availability of internet resources makes this back and forth inevitable and unending. The devs, instance admins and users that coalesce to make the “Lemmy” have to be dedicated to that. Everyone else will just kind of fade away as edge cases or slow death.

The data to build it is there. Ftfy

Agree. Farming karma is nothing compared to making a single individual polar-opinion APPEAR as though it is other’s (or most’s) polar-opinion. We know that other’s opinions are not our own, but they do influence our opinions. It’s pretty important that either 1) like numbers mean nothing, in which case hot/active/etc. are meaningless or 2) we work together to ensure trust in like numbers.

In this context it would be an account with the sole purpose of boosting the visible popularity of a post or comment.

IMO, likes need to be handled with supreme prejudice by the Lemmy software. A lot of thought needs to go into this. There are so many cases where the software could reject a likely fake like that would have near zero chance of rejecting valid likes. Putting this policing on instance admins is a recipe for failure.

You’d think someone with the foresight to make a freaking logo for their bot (that looks like a robot) could tick a box that says “I’m a bot.” :)

You guys got potato chips?

I actually wrote it with the flip side of your centralization argument in mind. If a community exists outside of the popular ones a user may never even know of its existence. Having more show up SHOULD be better to prevent centralization no? It requires the users to change their browsing behaviour but at least they don’t have gonsearching offsite.

$14.80

The weird rage people have about this. I'm not sure where it comes from. If there are 100 communities, only the top 1-5 will contribute 90% of the content. If you have even one user subscribed to the top 20 or 50 communities, you are already likely getting 90%+ of this traffic. After subscribing to literally every community in the lemmyverse, I promise your instance will not see any meaningful increase. I'm willing to be proven wrong, but not one of the ragers has offered a credible reason other than fears based on misunderstanding. No offense.

Yup. 256 GB should be enough database space for anyone though.

In Germany they pronounce it VasMan.

A handy chart: https://i.pinimg.com/originals/18/a4/2f/18a42ffa5c733c7c6bb86b547fb0647f.png

It's a cruel irony that we use an enclosure to help print materials with a higher Tg but the printer itself is printed of materials with the same or lower Tg. It makes perfect sense that your ABS parts are going to get mushy when you crank your heated bed to 100 and put the whole thing in a box. :)

I think your idea is on the right track when thinking longer term and assuming the worst case in both design and admin behavior. :)

The whole network needs to be split into "active" and "archive." New activity (or at the very least stubs to where new activity is happening) needs to be updated regardless of where it occurs without having to capture anything extra.

It increases load during execution. Afterward it’s not significant. My instance is heavily instrumented and monitored. The load this incurs subscribing to 24000 communities is less than adding a single, moderately active user to your instance.

It’s a huge miss if the intended design was to silo information.

What this provides, as far as I’m concerned, is essential to prevent centralization to a few instances.

Is there a better way to do it inherently in Lemmy itself? Probably, and I am excited to help with that!

It increases load during execution. Afterward it’s not significant. My instance is heavily instrumented and monitored. The load this incurs subscribing to 24000 communities is less than adding a single, moderately active user to your instance.

It’s a huge miss if the intended design was to silo information.

What this provides, as far as I’m concerned, is essential to prevent centralization to a few instances.

Is there a better way to do it inherently in Lemmy itself? Probably, and I am excited to help with that!

It doesn’t matter. Most of the work is happening on the instance, regardless of where the script is running.

I'm not convinced either one of us knows what the software is SUPPOSED to do, and I am pretty sure nobody knows what it's actually doing. Here's another thread: https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/3163

There is some discussion. https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/2947

I am still fairly confident that it shouldn't be storing images, but I'll admit my pict-rs directory is growing quite fast compared to the database. Have to keep a close eye on this.

We probably won't find out because a majority of the fediverse will not want facebook a part of it.