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  • Communists tried to make sure capitalism couldn't exist far harder than capitalists did for communism

    That's just literally not true. Financially alone communist countries didn't have the money to fight back, that's why they often moved towards socialism. Korea, Vietnam, Cuba, Venezuela. The countries were poor because heavy capitalist countries owned the main exports of these countries. Like the term Banana Republic is one sided.

    The entire goal of socialism is for workers to change the structure of capitalism. "Declaring war" in that way is like the war on drugs, language more than anything. This is not like a Jihad. It is just the philosophical belief that we aren't truly free until we own our venue of money making. As a people that's for the country you live in, as a person or worker it is for the company you operate with.

    This war is a declaration of change of the relationship of the rich and poor, the workers and the owners.

    But if you really think the KGB has done as much as the CIA I have a bridge to sell you. The KGB wish they were the CIA.

  • But what does that look like and how do you establish it without accidentally murdering millions.

    The wheels of history are lubricant for the wheels of history, evil shit but true. Whenever we want to move history we need to always consider who is being harmed.

    Our system sucks but turning it off will inevitably cause a shock of some degree and that harms people.

    Literally a kobayashi maru

  • When will these hate crimes against strawmen end!!

    Socialism isn't a single system bud, neither is capitalism. Are you suggesting the current state of any society on this planet is utopian? Probably not.

    More capitalist countries and empires have fallen than socialist ones. More death happens because of the structure of capitalism. Capitalism has caused more wars. It has existed longer, there's literally no arguing any of what I just stated.

    Are any of these arguments good to stop someone from exploring what capitalism can do or offer? No. So stop being stupid.

    Historically also, no. No socialist country was allowed to exist without foreign interference.

    Stop boiling everything down to a meme you halfwit. We absolutely need more socialist policymaking and a genuine consideration of what society needs to look like.

  • Sure.

    So anyway Henry Kissinger is a name you should look up. Allen Dulles. George HW Bush. Roy Cohn. Good places to start.

    Also the term Whataboutism fits here. I'm saying socialism isn't allowed to exist because of the Western Capitalism supplied Intelligence Agencies. What are you talking about?

  • Literally this.

    In any system their will be abuse, from hacking in video games to corruption in politics.

    The thing is though I'd rather we be corrupt and feeding/housing those who need it rather than be corrupt and not doing those things

  • It's insane. I know Ukraine has a neo nazi issue, so does the US. And Germany and England and most other countries. Brazil has fucking Nazis who are Hispanic ffs.

    But if they're trying to say only Ukraine has Nazis and not Russia they're outside their fuckin minds. I literally have met Russian Nazis, I know Russia has way more Nazis than Ukraine.