agent_nycto @ agent_nycto @lemmy.world

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Nah. There's more choice and thought put into a child's scrawling than any ai generated image.

Yeah, pretty much. You should try it, it's pretty easy.

Oh, I'm sorry, who's going around staking the pencils? Are they too expensive for you? Send me your address and I'll ship you 100 of them and about 50 brushes I don't use. Did someone take away your crayons as a kid and you never got over it? Did you not have the brain power to figure out how to poke at the mud with a stick?

Tell me, where is this barrier for you to pick up anything that makes a mark on something and then go make a mark on something? Who's keeping you from drawing?

I've been saying this for years

Except corporate art also has human elements behind it that change. Look at global village coffeehouse vs alegria. Having ai churn out all clip art and corporate art will make it stagnate and become even more soulless.

I say fuck it. Ban it all. If you can't be bothered to crudely draw a knockoff meme in paint like the rest of us you don't deserve to post anything. Saying that you will get rid of low quality ai is saying you're going to get rid of all of it anyway.

Puddles

Yeah, ask this is great expect 10. Violence isn't a bad thing, it just needs to be done tactically. Starting a fight when the cops are already there with the bait bricks they layed out? Not smart. Doing something at the governing body's place of residence when there aren't cops around? Sends a message.

I get it, people are scared of consequences, but at this point they're putting people into gulags whether they have some something or not so you may as well.

Fuckin AI bros trying to co-opt socialism to try to justify how much they love the new corporate tool.

Irresponsible Captain Taylor.

Underappreciated hidden gem of an old school anime. Dude bumblefucks his way into joining the military, starting an intergalactic war, becomes three captain of his own ship of misfits and starts winning said war by accident, and that's the first three episodes.

Right? I've been reading that since like, high school.

If there's 20% less water in the ecosystem that means 20% less freshwater. This can also cascade because if a pond or something loses too much it might not recover. So taking a lot of water out of the ecosystem is really bad for us.

I'd suggest watching the video if you want more details, but the amount of freshwater we can use is much smaller than the oceans.

Yeah sorry was arguing with communists over another pro AI meme.

It seems you're pretty entrenched in being pro AI so I don't see much point in going on about this with you, so I guess enjoy your slop or whatever.

Ok, let me explain it simply then.

You remember the water cycle from elementary school? You just described it. Well, there isn't an infinite amount of water on earth. So when you take water out of the water cycle and lock it away, like in jugs of water or in cooling systems for massive computers, it doesn't get evaporated and return to the environment. It stays in its jug.

So the more people store water away, the less water we have to use elsewhere.

As for the timeline, this is already happening now.

They go into more detail in the video. It's long but it is funny.

ICE is the new gestapo

Ok, first of all, AI doesn't "learn" the way humans do. That's not how AI imaging works. It basically translates images into a form of static computers can read, uses an algorithm to mix those into a new static, then translates it back. That's easy different than someone studying what negative space is or learning how to draw hands.

Second, posting a picture implies consent for people to see and learn from it, but that doesn't imply consent for people to use it however they want. A 16 year old girl posting pictures of her birthday party isn't really consenting to people using that to generate pornography based off of her body. There's also the issue of copyright, which is there to protect your works from just being used by anyone. (Yes, it's advised by corporations, don't bother trying to bring that up, I'm already pissed at Disney.) But even with people saying specifically that they don't want their art to be used for AI, even prominent artists like Miyazaki, doesn't stop AI from taking those images and doing something they don't consent to, scraping, with them.

Third, trying to say that it's only fear over new tech is a bullshit, hand waving way of dismissing people legitimate concerns with the issue. I like new technology and how it can help people. I even like some applications for AI. Using a bread checkout tool to detect breast cancer is awesome. The problems that have come up with other applications of it are pretty terrible, and you shouldn't stick your head in the sand about them.

(As an aside, trying to compare ai generated slop to all other arts is apples and oranges. There's much more art than digital images, so saying that an AI image takes less energy to make than a Ming vase or literally any other pottery for that matter is a false equivalence. They are not the same even if they have similarities, so comparing their physical costs doesn't track.)

Fourth, I'm not just talking about people using AI to make lies, I'm talking about AI making lies unintentionally. Like putting glue on pizza to keep the cheese on. Or to eat rocks. AI doesn't know what's a joke or misinformation, and will present it as true, and people will believe it as true if they don't know any better. It's inaccurate, and can't be accurate because it doesn't have a filter for its summeries. It's typing only using the suggested next word on your cell phone.

I didn't say to get rid of AI entirely, like I said, some applications are great, like with the breast cancer. But to say that the only issues people have with AI are because of capitalism is incorrect. It's a poorly working machine and saying that communism will make it magically not broken, when the problems are intrinsic to it, is a false and delusional statement.

sadly there isn't enough.

Ok cool make a true communist society and then I can.

Whatever mate people didn't volunteer their art to be scraped by ai so even if it's not plagiarism exactly, as defined by you or whomever, that doesn't mean that it's ethical or people like it.

And most don't.

And again this isn't just about images, there's also the environment and misinformation, plagiarism in academia (and that fits your definition) and a plethora of other issues which are not related to capitalism at all.