WraithGear @ WraithGear @lemmy.world

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Well… ok… then let’s do the “NONVIOLENT” protests and stop doing these sit ins.

Listen if it’s true, but the democrats are not willing to fight the results, then i don’t care. At that point the cheated election becomes legitimate. And Democratic leaders are on their non intervention kick, probably either because they are complicit, or want to really rub it in to the disenfranchised voters that It voters the blue no matter who, or else it gets the tyrant again.

Without huge media buy in, a billion people is just a number they throw out. I don’t see any change from the number one protest on the list. I don’t think protests are working, even as i still go to them.

He’s saying that if the police don’t bother then the protest has no teeth.

Thank you!

Oh! And my gun range ear muffs with high frequency dampening for when they use the sonic weapons.

Wait is that today?

I mean thats how the Black Panthers operated, it was super successful, so much so that even the NRA helped pass gun laws over it.

Bringing my hard hat, my gas mask, with extra NATO cartages, an umbrella, a spray bottle with water, back up battery, and a 5 gallon bucket.

The expectation that nothing should happen is a fever dream. All your worry is for nothing, what happens will happen, and the only thing you can do is what you can do. If it comes to civil war, that was a decision made by those in power, and is seeming inevitable at this point.

All it takes is a single police officer to put on plain clothes and to throw a brick. They do that on the regular, let’s stop this “don't do ANYTHING disruptive or could be considered violent! It will escalate!” Nonsense

If they want escalation then they can take it when ever they want. Police just wear plain clothes and throw a brick. Bam and done, at this point it’s best to just assume violence and act accusingly, it’s not like the media are impartial.

So like the steam workshop? Cool.

Bernie Sanders’s platform, he is the poster child of the progressive vote. There and done

Progressive policy is already known. As a matter of fact the Democratic Party publicly lambasted specific progressive policy after the election. It was one of the things that alienated me AFTER the election. If they blame progressives for costing them the election, then proclaim they will no longer fight for progressive policy, i don’t know what to tell you, but i ain’t interested.

That’s a category error. The democrats are not owed anyone’s votes. The terms are set. It is the reality of things. Not sure how blaming progressives is going to get us to change our minds.

If that’s the case then you should be on-bord with the democrats parleying with the progressives to secure the win. You must have SOME progressive policy you can at least stomach that you would demand the Democratic Party fork over. But after what the democrats did after the election, it better very very tempting.

Eh~ some votes are more equal than others. It’s a progressive want to rectify that, with a change to the voting system.

But also, yes, and if democrats want some of these votes, they are going to have to come to the table with something palatable, and it turns out that lies, and threats were not good enough. And you can hang the blame of the loss of the election squarely on the agent responsible, the Democratic Party.

And there we have it, the smoking gun. That’s the argument you should have started with, its the much more defensible position. But again it doesn’t mean that Biden had a snowballs chance in hell. Nor does this justify blaming disenfranchised voters for losing. Because however large the liberal block is, its obviously much much smaller then the republicans voter base. And it frames your blaming the progressives as a shaming tactic or a scare tactic depending on how close the next election is. And it also vindicated my position for getting progressive policy, seeing as that is now your stated goal to defeat.

Apparently the apathetic vote is large enough to prevent a democratic victory.

You can’t have it both ways either the progressive vote is too small to matter and they didn’t have an influence of Harris losing the election, or they are too massive to ignore and they must be pushed into voting against their interests or else its their fault the dems lost.

Pick a lane.

We are not talking about the center or the republicans rightward drift. These are enabled by the democratic parties rightward drift

Your argument is to arrest the right ward drift by voting in centrist democrats… and they would push progressive policy against their own goals because why again?