New poll finds strong majority opposes gender-affirming care bans for trans minors
On your first point, does the evidence show that taking puberty blockers makes you more socially isolated? I have seen no evidence of that at all, and instead there's a mountain of evidence that social transition and puberty blockers lower suicidality in trans kids and increase mental health outcomes.
We've been using puberty blockers, not just for trans kids but for precocious puberty for decades and have more than enough long term evidence of their effectiveness and safety. No drug or procedure is without risk, but why is that only a problem for this issue? Are you also against kids getting chemo? I mean, they certainly don't fully understand the risks of chemo do they?
The question of consent and knowledge of risk is a red herring. Kids can't consent to any medical procedures or sex because we've defined consent that way. But consent from the patient is not always needed for medical procedures, especially when the patient is unable to give consent. Should coma patients still get care that has risks? They can't consent right?
Consent is given by the parents and the medical professionals who have the authority to make those decisions. You can ask the kid, and they usually do, but their consent does not matter. That's how all medical procedures work with kids.
In reality, your statements lay bare a bias, which is why you're getting downvoted. You only seem to care about risks and consent for this specific highly-politicized topic and not medical procedures broadly. Because this is not about a broad critique of consent, it's about trying to excuse your uncomfortablity with this one subject and trying to justify it in any way you can.
You don't have to understand it, and you don't have to agree with it, but you should at least recognize why the majority of major medical institutions make the recommendations they do. And, shockingly, it's not because they somehow forgot it was involving kids, it's because they know a little more about the topic and nuances than you do.
Do you care to back up your claim at all or are you just going to go with "these two distinct words with distinct definitions actually mean the same thing because I said so" the same way TERFs and transphobes talk about sex and gender?
Is it possible to support the black community in America without supporting black separatism?
I would imagine that would be less the case in places like Nevada that have legalized and regulated sex work.
Out of curiosity, do you feel the same way about people and other jobs? Like, do you feel as bad for the line cooks at McDonald's?
Are semi trucks regularly driving down residential roads backwards?
How is the front height of a truck (not even specifically the bumper, you could have a low bumper but a giant hood that makes seeing a small child or animal almost impossible) and the rear height of a semi even comparable?
You realize car safety is about more than the height of the bumper right?
Also, YES all cars should have the same bumper height so cars who hit each other are less likely to do fatal damage to the occupants. Bumpers reduce the total impact felt by the occupants and decrease the damage done to the vehicle itself. You can make the bumper any height and still have the rest of the car as tall or short as you want. Do you even know why semi trucks have the lower bumper on them?
They haven't been banned yet because the American auto industry has a really strong lobbying arm that both parties bow to. Why do you think Biden just announced a 100% tariff on Chinese EVs while specifically saying it was to protect the US auto industry?
Ya totally, we'll just do a quick leftist Jan 6th. I'm totally sure the police will be nice and respectful to us and not immediately shoot everyone on sight. It's totally a real possibility for a handful of regular leftists to kill all the politicians they don't like and the government totally wouldn't immediately send in the troops and use it as an excuse to ban being left of Clinton for the next century.
I swear to God you people are more delusional than the "gotta keep my Walmart brand AR in my bedroom in case the feds try to kill me in my sleep" kind of conservatives.
Wait, so you admit that you, in your spare time for fun presumably, look for things the worst part of any groups do so that you can give other people excuses to hate them? Do you have any idea how retarded that is on every level? You just like to hate groups of people and go looking for excuses for it, it's like someone made a recipe on how to trick yourself with confirmation bias into being an even bigger bigot.
Also, just for fun, have you ever done that same thing with groups you belong to? Like, say for example, men, white people, heterosexuals, cisgenerders, neo-nazis, zoophiles?
No, of course you don't hate them, you just think people are justified in hating them as long as they are in public. Don't you know people will just get over their biases if other people never confront them and they never see the people they hate? We just have to make every disliked minority disappear from public view and the bigots will magically get over it.
Don't you remember when black people gained equal rights in the law by disappearing from public for a while? It was only when they stopped being so in your face about their mistreatment that the bigots accepted them and gave them rights, right?
Why don't people like you have the fucking balls to just say what you think? Why is it always this, "Oh I'd be fine with them if they'd stop asking for me to be fine with them" kind of wishy-washy bullshit. Just fucking grow a pair and say you don't like seeing gay people in public because you think they are gross and weird.
Or you could just read a little about it.
The term "tankie" was originally used by dissident Marxist–Leninists to describe members of the Communist Party of Great Britain (CPGB) who followed the party line of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union (CPSU). Specifically, it was used to distinguish party members who spoke out in defense of the Soviet use of tanks to suppress the Hungarian Revolution of 1956 and the 1968 Prague Spring, or who more broadly adhered to pro-Soviet positions.
It did not start with militant anarchists and has nothing to do with whether violence can save us or not. It was, and is still, about whether or not you support ML dictators and brush away their obvious failures.
There is no McCarthy Committee today looking for Tankie supporters in the US. There are people who make excuses for the genocides and repression of dictators who wore red, and there are people who don't want a movement to free humanity tied to the shackles of its worst attempts.
I use the term because I don't want my advocacy for a system designed to improve the lives of every person on earth, granting them maximal freedom, to be defined by the failures of men in the past who thought the only way to accomplish that was to murder and silence everything in the way of their personal pursuit of power.
Oh my God, he's getting better, he finally invented a conspiracy theory that doesn't implicate the Jews! Progress!
It's the Principal Skinner meme response.
"Could I be wrong about the way men behave in society that makes women feel so uncomfortable? No, it's the women who are wrong."
It still shows up for me, I'll post it below for reference.
The meme is about a controversial topic which has lead to numerous debates lately where "both sides" are extremely sexist to the other. I made an statement, it wasn't subject of debate (unlike the meme).
there is no rule that the memes can’t be attached to debates
Never said that, I actually enjoy a lot of debates born from memes, so that's not the problem. I clearly said I didn't see this specific topic appropriate because of the sexist (and sometimes political) nature of it. Debates are only cool when they aren't meant to divide and create conflict-
Were you guys outspoken then?
-which you seem to try to encourage. Nice try, but I'm not changing my mind here, this post doesn't seem appropriate to me in the slightest. People here expect "haHa [insert funny akward quote]", not "let's compare ewoks to fucking rapists".
Debates are only cool when they aren't meant to divide and create conflict-
Do you know what debates are? What they are for? How they operate? A debate is always two opposing ideas, they are literally designed to divide and revolve around conflict. If you only like debates that unite and cause harmony then you don't actually like debates, you like discussions.
I clearly said I didn't see this specific topic appropriate because of the sexist (and sometimes political) nature of it.
A) Yes it's a debate about sexism and rape culture, of course it's going to involve sexism.
B) Everything is politics. People who complain about things "getting too political" just don't like the politics on display.
We are literally in a meme community revolving around an allegory for the Vietnam war where the good guys are analogous to the Vietcong. If you think Star Wars is not a place for politics then you don't understand Star Wars.
The problem is a large portion of rape is not done by serial rapists who rapes every chance they get, it's done by average dudes once or twice when an opportunity arrives. Most rape cases involve someone known to the victim.
Rape culture (as awkward and taboo of a phrase as it as) is a real thing that this bear analogy is pointing to. You may not have anything to examine in yourself that is the result of that culture but a metric fuck-ton of men do have internalized rape cultural aspects that need to be examined and extracted. The fact that so many women picked the bear is a testament to how pervasive that culture is, at least in their eyes.
The point isn't to stoke the egos of the serial rapists with no empathy, it's to use empathy to make the "average-Joe" rapist examine his internal biases before they turn into an actual rape.
Men's feeling are more important than women's safety and men's feelings are less important than women's safety?
I, for one, am shocked, shocked that defenders of Russia are still using the same easily disproven lies to justify invading, occupying, and murdering a neighboring country.
It's not like Russia has a history of lying about its military operations in Ukraine or anything, right?
It's the second half of your claim you'd have to support with evidence. Of course we help fund them, but it's not so clear that they "benefit Hamas"".
If you read something like this article here, you'd note that of the 19 alleged ties to Hamas (of 34,000 workers btw) none have been found to be supported by evidence. Some of them are still going, and maybe they will show some kind of connection, but A) the time to believe that is when evidence is provided, not when the claim is made and B) I don't really think cutting funding for an agency that does legitimate help to people currently starving and dying is justified just because 0.05% of employees have ties to Hamas. Would you be Ok condemning and demanding we cut funding to the IDF if we found 0.05% of their personnel had ties to radical Zionist movements calling for the eradication of Palestinians? Something tells me you wouldn't.
$15 Minimum wage: Sinema famously voted it down.
How exactly does either of these reflect badly on Biden? The whole point is that people like you are forgetting that Biden couldn't do it alone and that we need more Dems in Congress so that people like her can be put in a corner and ignored. A vote for Biden isn't an endorsement of all Dems. If you live in a district where a moderate Dem is representing you than do your part in the primaries. If you don't, do your part in voting in better/more Dems so we can religate the moderates.
Jesus Christ dude, do I need to link you the list of Trump lies told in his four years? What had Biden lied about that's even close to that!? Trump averaged multiple lies in a day and you're here saying they are basically the same. If you want Trump to win just vote for him instead of pretending it's some principled stand against Biden.
Sorry, you expect Biden to undo it if he is elected? Or do you just mean that it will be removed if Trump wins. Of course if Trump wins he'll undo whatever of Biden's work he can. I don't have any reason at all to think Biden would remove it after the election if he won. Why wouldn't he maintain it?
How about you use a fucking dictionary or the google button on your phone and look it up yourself.
Gender = sex = sexuality
Gender isn't about who you sleep with, or what's in your genes/jeans.
If you want to come here to convince people then do the leg-work yourself.