Thorny_Insight @ Thorny_Insight @lemm.ee

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Echo chamber within echo chamber I guess.

It's not the people whose opinions I disagree with who I usually block. It's people making snide comments like this while fishing for upvotes. I'll reserve my attention to the ones who have something to say rather than ones just wanting to make noise.

If this mean we'd be able to see who has up- / downvoted a comment on our own and possibly on other people's posts then I'm all for it. This would be highly useful at filtering out the people here I want nothing to do with.

Musk really fucked everything up, did he?

Other than no longer being able to use an app to access twitter, I haven't noticed anything else changing for the worse. They even made the "media" tab into grid rather than list which was a welcome update.

It's been nothing but politics and memes (often about politics) since the first day I joined. I can only imagine how bad it is without my content filters considering how bad it is even with them.

I call it a "perfect moment" and I try to make a mental note when ever I experience one so that I'll be more likely to notice the next time it happens. It's most often in the nature for me as well.

I do photography and I've heard people analyze my work and try and find some meaning, intention or a message that I'm trying to convey with it.

The reality is that I took 150 pictures and that was the one I liked the best. There's nothing to it for me except how it looks. The fact that I managed to capture that specific photo is hardly anything but an accident. There is no meaning to it and whatever meaning one imagines seeing there is just in their mind. It's a story you're telling yourself and you'd come up with a similar story from a piece made by AI that you didn't realize was such. If it stops being art at the moment you learn it was made by AI but you accept it as art when it was made by human even if it was, in fact, an accident, then that's exactly the gatekeeping I'm talking about.

I'll resist the temptation to voice my opinion about your relationship as I don't know either of you and don't have enough information.

I do however live in a open relationship myself but our situation is a bit different. It's me who has practically zero interest in sex so my gf is allowed to see other guys and she does. I used to be extremely jealous person before but I somehow grew out of it. The first few times she went out with one felt kind of weird but as time passed I got over it and no longed does it make me feel jealous. What I've noticed is that as long as I trust her there's no problem. It's when ever she acts in a way that I find suspicious that all my insecurities creep up. Having been cheated on before likely has something to do with this. If you've been suspecting that she has done stuff behind your back, even if she hasn't, then that is not the time to go forward with this. Trust is the number one, two and third most important thing in a open relationship.

There's no way you'll live 2 weeks of that and not be on a massive calorie deficit.

Way, way too much. 100 euros buys you three to four bags of food from LIDL.

What I hear you saying is that generative AI is the artist, not the one writing the prompt.

I'm fine by that. It's not exactly how I see it but I have no argument against. It's not what this thread is about.

Perfect is probably exaggerated but what I mean is the promp that produces the exact outcome you were looking for. Generative AI can produce very high quality pictures with a simple prompt but if you're an artist with an exact vision in mind, it not so easy anymore to get AI to produce that for you.

Personally I find AI art to look like “AI-art” if that makes sense.

I know what you mean and while I generally agree I must still note that this only applies to the "bad" examples. It's conceivable that you too have seen pieces you truly liked but didn't realize were made by AI. This is something people often don't seem to consider; AI art is only bad untill it isn't.

Painters can either splash paint on the canvas or spend months working on a photorealistic masterpiece. There's absolutely a difference in skill needed for both but to claim the former is not art would also be gatekeeping.

That argument also disregards the actual difficulty of crafting the perfect prompt to get the AI to output what you want it to. Anyone can create pictures with it but it's not trivial to get it to create exactly what you want.

It's a rather safe assumption. I too like to tell myself a story about how I can always spot fakes but I know it to not be true.

This is slightly off topic because we're now discussing who the artist is, not wether it's considered art.

My personal opinion on the matter is that artist is not a tool so by prompting them it's still them whose creating the art piece. At best it would be considered a collaboration. The output is still art. I argue that the output of human and AI collaboration is also art.

How did they not create anything? They inserted a prompt into the tool and received a picture.

I don't see how that comparison translates to the topic about AI art.

If AI can create better content than humans can then people will rather consume that. I don't see why you should artificially limit this. If someone thinks that AI content is not better then that's who the audience is for the remaining human creators. AI can already create better looking photos than I can, but it has zero effect on my desire to do photography. I don't see what the issue is.

One who wrote the prompt. It may be the AI that does all the heavy lifting but it's still a tool and alone it doesn't create anything.

Human is the one with vision, AI is the tool. It's just a much more advanced paint brush that anyone can use. Alone it doesn't create anything and if the end result is bad, it's not the fault of the brush.

AI art is just an art sub-genre like painting, sculpting or photography is. Saying it's not art is like a film photographer saying digital is not real photography - gatekeeping.