Stoneykins @ Stoneykins @lemmy.one

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They are talking about karma as a thing you could collect, point totals for all posts added together displayed on your profile. Not the voting mechanism itself.

Actually that is really really interesting what you said, "morally opposed to windmills." They obviously are against them from a "moral" perspective, but I've never seen even an attempt at a moral argument against windmills, its all crazy conspiracy theory stuff. I would almost respect it more if one of them just said something like "I don't like windmills because I think it is morally wrong to harvest wind".

That is kinda my point, the meaning of "conservative" changes a lot through the centuries it has been used, and the only consistent part seems to be the assholes using it as a "friendly" sounding mask.

And your perspective of the public opinion of liberals is entirely too informed by mainstream media. Many leftists dislike liberals for not being leftist enough, and moderates seem to only expect maintenance of the status quo, not magic

We are both arguing what we each think should happen. It just so happens that in this disagreement, what I think should happen is for things to not change.

I get the appeal of somehow turning a larger more active community that is similar to what you want into explicitly what you want, but that doesn't consider how that effects the majority of people who joined and are part of that community because it is already explicitly what they want. The majority of the demand for political news on lemmy is for US politics.

If there was somehow a way to throttle the US politics so it didn't flood out everything else, then the bulk of the community would just find another place that wasn't doing that.

All that can reasonably be done is be patient, for communities to grow and stabilize, until there are active groups available for each specific interest

That one might be filled with US stuff because many of it's users are from the US, but there is no rule requiring everything be related to US politics, which seems to be the rule people wanted changed here. Even if they changed that rule here, this place would still have been 90% US politics because that is what the community that grew here wanted.

It has only existed for a month and based on all evidence has always been for just US politics. Are you sure you haven't confused it with another politics group on lemmy? Like !politics@lemmy.ml?

Idk why people want to change communities to be what they want them to be instead of seeking out or making the communities they want elsewhere. Anyone can have the politics name on any other instance, unlike how reddit was.

If you don't think of it as a mistake, simply an inconsequential detail, it makes perfect sense to retain it as a form of identity, so people that switched platforms can feel like they moved as a group.

I wasn't putting words in your mouth, you are acting like they have somehow done something incorrectly, but that would imply there is a correct way, which would imply rules for how to do it, official, unspoken, whatever idc.

Anyone can make their own group on a different instance and call it the same thing. If you don't like how lemmy.world works, don't take it out on the mods here, either find another instance, start one yourself, or if you have to, take it up with a lemmy.world admin

I don't think it is unreasonable to assume people are sane until proven otherwise.

The problem is some people get comfortable with their opinion of someone and won't change it when presented with new information.

I disagree that people generally have a good idea what a fascist government looks like, or else there wouldn't be this level of confusion. I think most people at best, know what countrys had a problem with fascism in the past, without any certainty of what parts of of those governments were where the fascism was, just guesses.

Thats why comparisons to nazis and such are so common I would say. People find it a lot easier to point out similarities to known fascism than to try and concisely point out the exact point where an action became "fascist"

They weren't quite like this but there was still shitty conservatives in much the same way... The extremists weren't the core yet though. They were absolutely still there and voting for Bush, they just weren't allowed to be the face of the party... Yet.

Why do they all hate windmills so much?

I had an old family friend meltdown, unfriend me from facebook, and avoid me like the plague ever since I told him he was wrong when he claimed it takes more electricity to make a single windmill than a windmill can ever produce in it's usuable lifetime...

"conservative" is starting to feel like a meaningless label that assholes throughout history have tried to use to describe themselves because they didn't like the other words people were using to describe them.

And don't get me wrong, I'm sure there are "real" conservatives out there and in history, but it sure feels like they are outnumbered by the people that use the word as a mask, and that is weird.

As a kid I had it hammered into my head by my grandparents that patriotism is the desire to improve (and maintain) the place where one lives.

I wish more people had that perspective. "Patriotism" as a description of blind devotion and themed outfits is pretty dumb.

Why do you think there are rules for community names? There are no rules or expectations (at least not yet) for community names.

The well-known answer for why this community is named this is that it is a recreation of another community that was also named this.

Why would you subscribe to something in the first place without knowing anything more than its title? Bizarre.

I had commented a long-winded opinion a few minutes ago, it probably doesn't matter, but I've been sitting here wondering for the last 20 minutes...

Why does this matter to you, or to anybody? I'm not trying to be judgemental, I do not understand it.

Do you feel like there should be rules about community names? That they should have to be as descriptive as possible woth the name, or something like that?

I'm not sure why it would matter if communities want to name themselves anything at all, and many communities are intentionally named something completely different than what the community is for. Do you think that shouldn't be allowed, or is it just situations like with this community where you see an issue?

Personally I really don't think the names matter, one way or the other. I'm really only against this community changing because I wanted a US politics community in the first place, and if this stops being that, I'll have to go find another one.

Some instances do not allow downvotes. I don't agree with your post but cannot downvote it.

I'm not complaining, I like no downvotes, downvotes are usually just a way for people to vent frustrations without articulating them.

But, you can't necessarily use votes to draw the conclusions you have.

I didn't agree when people tried to insist subreddits with certain names should be obligated to try to be as nuetral an interpretation of their names as possible, but here on lemmy, this concern is even more silly.

On reddit, another /r/politics couldn't be made, and there was a valid argument that they were preventing anyone else from using the generic name more appropriately, essentially holding it hostage. But, I already didn't think it was a big enough deal to really matter, many other possible names continued to be available for a more generic subreddit.

Here on lemmy this is a complete non-issue. You can make a /c/politics on any instance you like, and you can start your own instance if you don't like any available. The only difference would be subscribers and participation, but the subscribers that are here are here for a US politics sub, that's what it was when they joined, changing it would not be ok with many of them.

If you want a world politics community with subscribers you have to start one and get people to join.

And lemmy.world is just the instance name, it has no indication of theme for the communities it hosts

Fixing our emissions problem absolutely is the most important part, but technology for ecology restoration is ALSO very important. There are things (quite possibly the survival of many species of coral) that are already gone or past the point of no return, that are necessary to fix or replace to prevent further collapse of ecosystems. And don't downplay the effort and work done by biologists and ecologists to save individual species, it is difficult and often underappreciated.

I love the comic strip and am looking forward to this.

But apple tv? That sucks. For them, mostly, I'm just gunna have to pirate it.