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  • They don't have that much power. It takes a lot (and a lack of sanity) for someone to "kill a bunch of people on their way out".

    The most they can do is something like Jan 6th with more competence. Something like that requires organization, and the FBI is pretty good at infiltrating organizations who are trying to grow enough to make a difference. January 6th wasn't stopped primarily because it was done by the President, and the office (for better or worse) gets more leeway with laws.

  • My other favorite one is that apparently all 20,000 of you are Russian trolls.

    Absolutely not. That has never been how it works. You start with plants, yes. You make jokes and create a clique that seems fun with jokes and in-culture. This helps you pick up actual people in your target audience and true believers, even if you haven't given them really anything concrete to believe in yet. (We are here.) And then you start pushing your main points while stifling dissent.

    The actual points I've seen come out are @ReadFanon above with the Putin images and... not much else. It's mostly "we LGBT" and vague "communism" (with no actual points) and "go read more". It's mostly dogpiling with no actual substance. Until you get to anti-NATO shit of course.

    There's a ton to criticize about the West, but generally Russia and China aren't doing those things any better. Anti-NATO is a weird stance and really only serves one purpose.

  • It's concerning, but I expect most of them are doing it for attention.

    It might be better to allow them to wallow in obscurity than to bring any kind of community attention to them.

    Whatever happens, I hope it's done quietly, because to some extent any press they can get is good press. Their numbers are pitiful and they'd love to recruit enough to be actual counter culture instead of just shock hate.

  • It's worth thinking about what you're putting out there, but you're right. This isn't a Threads specific thing.

    You're putting these posts on the internet. You should expect everyone to read them, including Threads and Google and Putin and Kim Jong Un. That's kind of the idea of public posting. They don't even need an API to do that.

  • But not in 100% of cases and therefore it's not worth trying. /s

    It is a difficult problem, because there really are some mentally disturbed people in that population too. You can absolutely tackle the problem slowly and one case at a time lift most people out of that situation. But any solution that treats them as a group will bring along the 10% of them that will literally shit all over everything you've tried to build.

  • I want to argue that W's damage was more immediate, but I keep finding arguments against that.

    W might the the president most to blame for climate change. When Dems win it tends to be with a 50% + 1 majority, or close enough to it, while including senators from places like West fucking Virginia.

    Republicans at any time can do bipartisan things about climate. Dems don't have that power.

    I'd say any time between 1990 and 2010 was the time where there should have absolutely been enough consensus, and close enough to last minute to actually do something. Shut down all the coal plants in the West. Embargo countries that don't cooperate on climate. That could have been done. (And yeah, we could have absolutely shut down every coal plant in the West if we were willing.)

    Then I was going to add another caveat about reading the 9/11 report. I don't fully blame W for that. It's a thing that would have been possible for any president to miss. But he's the one who missed it. I don't fully absolve him of it, either.

    W's intentions behind the Iraq war may have been for the good of us all, but the results absolutely weren't.

    The war in Afghanistan can be shared mostly between Obama and Trump. We were there for 20 years and couldn't manage to make a safe haven. Could have built fucking walls around Kabul, built up the government only there, and let them work on expanding that control outward for the next 50 years.

    I still believe Trump's damage will be longer term. I don't know if he'll be able to outdo W, and he'll never reach Reagan levels of damage. But I don't think we've seen most of Trump's damage yet.