Saik0 @ Saik0Shinigami @lemmy.saik0.com

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Then agree to disagree. I can reflect on a number of points in my life where I've decided that I did the wrong thing. I hold shame for those actions and use that to hold myself to better standards now. Guilt and regret is part of shame.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/shame

1a: a painful emotion caused by consciousness of guilt, shortcoming, or impropriety

Even in your context of bringing shame to people, or attempting to impart guilt and disgrace... That's an important metric to build the exact culture of habits that you're advocating for. Most people don't care if they litter in the park. It's only after you guilt them into it that they'll do it.

But no point in going any further into this conversation. It's clear your mind is made. Have a good weekend.

Edit: clarification.

Okay? So where are you telling the top commenter that having soft power with a ceremonial monarchy is pointless?

Why is everyone getting up and arms like it matters if they have no actual power?

Shame should be abolished after all.

Shame is an emotion. You can't abolish an emotion. And shame is an emotion that a lot of people use to regulate themselves. This is a silly statement on it's face. All emotions are irrational. Are you advocating for banning emotions?

There is a good reason that old men shouldn't touch young women. Shame is one emotion that likely regulates many of those men from never doing it. Such that they would feel shame should they do such an action.

If you can't agree on that, then I'm failing to understand your point or we simply agree to disagree.

That's some dangerous assumptions you're making here... Just because there's a vocal minority that seems to fit the painting you've pictured doesn't mean that it's valid. It could easily be argued the complete opposite that those who had shame about the incident would hold onto it, internalize it... and never talk about it again. It can easily go both ways here.

But my statement was more of an answer to the implicit question of "why did I get the lifelong lesson when the others around me clearly didn't?"... That answer could be because a lot of people just don't feel shame. Doesn't have to be "they gotta be really slow or something". They didn't get the lesson... they felt no shame.

The entire Crux of your argument is that you don’t see the message arrive as an email.

This isn't a Crux... All of the mail gateways work this way.

Fun fact those are actually emailed most of the time. MMS format your phonenumber@carrier.tld

You stated this... You stated that it's phonenumber@carriergateway.

This is how they work. They show the email address.

I have never once stopped to ask which phone carrier the cx is using.

This doesn't even jive with your initial statement... how do you fill in the carrier.tld part if you have no idea what carrier the customer is on?

Your own story doesn't make sense anymore.

Yet mysteriously they can all receive the texts that I’m sending via an email.

And yet I've shown you MILLIONS of customers in the US alone, direct from the carrier, that will not receive that message as that service DOES NOT exist for them outright... This is literally 1/3 of the US, with another 1/3 that is likely opt-in.

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Yet mysteriously they can all receive the texts that I’m sending via an email.

Yes, because you're not doing it the way you claim you're doing it... I've already told you that the way it's done in industry is through SMS services like twilio or through registered short-code services. And those are API interactions, not email. You're not using the carrier gateway service. These services have strict KYC requirements that the email gateways never did. You might make your own gateway for email bridging, but at that point it's not the phonenumber@carrier.tld that you've claimed, and that email bridge that you develop would be a registered short-code/phone number and interact as a normal SMS/MMS message. I wouldn't suspect this based on your explanation either as it wouldn't take hours for your own email bridge to handle an email from your own infrastructure, or if it does... your IT team probably sucks (probably not even by their own fault). This wouldn't require you to know the carrier the user is on since twilio would just be translating/sending it as a normal SMS/MMS. https://www.twilio.com/en-us/blog/build-sms-email-bridge-python-fastapi-twilio as an example. But once again... this has nothing do with your claimed phonenumber@carrier.tld function which is the carrier sms gateway which doesn't work as you've stated these days.

That shame gave me a lifelong lesson.

A lot of people don't feel shame...

Which would make sense from a censorship point of view as jailbreaks would be a problem. Just a filter/check before the result is returned for *tiananmen* is a much harder to break thing than guaranteeing the LLM doesn't get jailbroken/hallucinate.

You can use something and still fundamentally not understand it...

Here's an example of a message that's send the way you describe. Note the fully shown email address in the from field at the top.

And here's a real 2fa short code message. This was not send via email, this was a registered shortcode number that would be registered with your telephone provider.

Notice that the real 2fa message doesn't show a full email address as the sender?

If your company is relying on the sms/mms mail gateways, then you are not going to be able to reach most of your clients. Here's the top 5 carriers in the USA.

Verizon (146 Million users) was opt-in for me (I had to turn it on in order to get my cloudflare alerts to work, can't rely on email when I'm specifically monitoring the email server). For those who have Verizon, text "status" to 4040 to see if your gateway is active! (https://www.verizon.com/about/account-security/email-to-text-faqs). Though it is entirely possible that it's no longer opt-in or has changed defaults over time... possible even repeatedly, my account is very old...

T-mobile's (131 million users) gateway is opt-out last I checked. Meaning that a lot of people will find it once after getting some spam and turn it off.

ATT (118 million users) turned theirs off outright... https://www.att.com/support/article/wireless/KM1061254/

Boost (7 million) mobile relies on AT&T... See above.

US Cellular (4.4 million) - looks like it's working.

These are the five biggest carriers in the USA, with 3 of them default to "no"... If you're trusting this function to work for your users, then you're in the wrong from an IT perspective.

Another reason you know that most companies do not use this mechanism for 2fa... 2fa pins expire. Can't send 2fa pins that take "A couple of hours" to arrive when that pin expires in 10-15 minutes for most services.

Most sms texts come from registered services like twilio (https://www.twilio.com/en-us/messaging/channels/sms/short-codes), ez texting, salesmsg, textmagic, simple texting, slicktext, textla, etc... For the ones I've interacted with, you use their APIs to send messages, and the messages always come from a shortcode or normal phone number, never from an email address. I've never... ever ever... received an MFA pin from an email address. Always short codes or full phone numbers.

Edit: typo

Deeply incorrect as most carriers have the SMS/MMS gateways disabled by default. Eg, you have to enable that function on Verizon. Also you'd see an email as the sending party, not a phone number/shortcode

As I’m currently doing a re-wire

Depending on how far you're rewiring... You might want to look into a https://www.span.io/. I installed one when I installed solar (and whole house battery). It's been great for me. Integrates nicely into HA, and with HA now doing parent-child power montoring, I can see the whole break and break out specific loads that I want more information on with the zwave modules I already had.

8gbps here in USA... Quantum fiber.

I know of a few others in my area as well... Google Fiber, AT&T is offering 5gbps I think... Wyyerd is a local-ish one that's offering 8gbps...

Well, I could be wrong here, but I don't think I've ever seen a European outlet that did more than the 220-230v...

We're not talking about three phase setups here... Residential in the USA is commonly 120/240. Not just 120.

If we're going to talk 3-phase comparisons... then you'll see all number of setups, but the most common would be 120/208, where 3 phases are wye tapped.

But in a typical USA home you can and will find 240 volt outlets for ranges, stoves, dryers, etc... We have outlets that provide 240.

So I refute one specific point of your argument. Another commenter even says they were outright denied. And your sane and rational response is "well that doesn't matter" and you downvote me even though I was adding to the topic/discussion that you brought up?

Grow up dude.

Unfortunately for your case, you're still wrong. But that won't change your mind regardless and I'm not interested in talking to someone who acts the way you are.

I'm a snipped man... there were a lot of questions.

I don't know who told you "no questions asked", but that definitely doesn't match my lived experience.

Well it tickles me most that the username of the person who downvoted me is directly electrical engineering related... They should have understood everything I said and realized it was accurate.

But instead hurr durr American!

Except that we have 240v?

Why do people overseas keep getting this wrong?

In the USA, by and large, homes are supplied with 240v with a neutral in the middle. So each phase is 120v. And we can access 240 by simply going across both phases. Literally every house I've ever been in my whole life has had 240v to the panel, including ones built before anyone on Lemmy was born.

The only places this isn't true was a couple of large apartment complex I lived in for few years where it was 360 to the complex 208 to the unit and 115v on each phase.

If you took out the neutral, we'd have 240 exactly like Europe. In theory (definitely not within code), on 90+% of houses in the USA, you could just wire the neutral to the opposite phase as live that the circuit is already on and get the full 240v to every outlet in the house (DO NOT FUCKING DO THIS). Each phase that we have only exists in the context of the neutral, and the neutral is strictly optional(though common) in the context of things like high draw devices.

As far as your aluminum comment... First, why aren't you saying "aluminium" if you're not (seemingly) American? But you realize that aluminum works perfectly fine for power delivery right? The EU uses aluminum in places too...

https://www.hydro.com/en/global/media/news/2025/hydro-invests-nok-1.65-billion-to-supply-europes-electric-infrastructure-with-low-carbon-aluminium

“Europe's energy transition is about one thing, more renewable power production, and the power produced must be transported over long distances. Aluminium is crucial for transporting electricity to where it is needed. By expanding the capacity to deliver low-carbon aluminium from Norway to the EU, we help ensure that the infrastructure, the very backbone of the future energy system, supports both Europe's security and climate policy goals," says Kallevik.

Edit: LMAO downvoted for actual facts. Here you go mr aussie.zone user that also clearly doesn't understand the USA electrical system, https://youtu.be/jMmUoZh3Hq4

I brought up losses, upkeep, AND environmental impact.

All three of these items affect the cost of generation that you're ignoring.

I love how you address only 1/3 of the items I brought up!

I have 0% loss on my house (except for the inverter losses, which the solar farms would incur as well). With 0 trees blocking anything.

Upkeeping massive transmission lines isn't free. Adapting solar to the current grid also isn't free and lossless. Transformers on the road to bring down voltage are a 1-2% loss on their own.

Massive fields of solar has upkeep/environmental costs as well.

If you choose to misconstrue me bringing up valid points as to why we should also be installing solar on buildings as an argument to never install solar farms... that's up to you. But there is value to putting production as close to load as possible.

There is a benefit to putting solar close to the load. Less transmission losses/upkeep.

There is a benefit to putting solar on roofs/buildings... Less environmental impact.

I've only ever played borderlands solo...