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Did you read the article because your response article doesn't really address it, or the moral culpability of it either

Like, is the argument you're making that congress also approves of giving weapons to allow genocide, so it is fine actually?

If there is one thing this Genocide on its way to Holocaust has shown us. is that the Democrat Party leadership are without a doubt sociopaths of the worst kind

Nah, they're normal people well adjusted to an evil system. The trial of the nazis showed that it wasn't mental illness, just normal people doing very evil things.

but neither Biden nor Harris are the ones out there targeting individuals or pulling triggers.

Isn't this pres admin breaking US law to send even more weapons for the genocide?

https://truthout.org/articles/former-official-biden-state-department-bending-us-law-to-send-israel-weapons/

You use "oh it is just iron dome stuff" rhetoric but that's not true, and even if it was, a defensive system lets them take violent actions with less worry of retaliation

This you?

Do you often make up fantasies about strangers on the internet that you lose arguments to?

Source: https://lemmy.ml/post/21396576/14301383

That is what your little middle school demonstration of informal logical fallacies are though, you're substituting arguments for "um actually fallacy" like it is some checkmate that dismisses everything people are saying.

Notice how you went for an "um actually I didn't technically say those words" instead of responding to this:

You’re straight up doing it though, like, your nuanced bullshit around Israeli settlers and indigenous Palestinians.

Genocide isn't morally complicated, and the fact that you're debate broing about it defensively when people say shit that is just objectively correct, like, "Israel is a settler colonial state commiting genocide" is a real indication that maybe you should step back for five minutes and check in with yourself.

You're straight up doing it though, like, your nuanced bullshit around Israeli settlers and indigenous Palestinians.

Consider that you have to keep declaring victory because you're aware on some level that you're wrong on this.

You'd say "its nuanced" about colonizers killing indigenous tribes and the indigenous tribes fighting back.

A 1000 year Middle East conflict “isn’t a complex issue”?

Israel as a settler colonial entity is around 100 years old. Before that, Christians, Muslims, and Jews lived in the same area with very little sectarian violence for around 800 years.

(just straight up misogyny)

Scratched liberal alert

'Aha, I have depicted my opponent as the soyjak emoji and myself as the chad!"

And wage labor and capital and value price and profit if they want to touch more on the economics.

Would you defend german ally troops during the holocaust? No? Then maybe reflect.

Honestly, I am quite surprised how low tankies are willing to go to defend China. As a Chinese, it is very disheartening to me that people have never experienced or seen the suffering of living under an authoritarian government, are more willing to blindly defend it, than having a intellectual discussion.

Compare the prison population of the US to China's lol.

likely means the wage that reaches your bank account, i.e. wage - 401k, insurance etc

Well ain't that a shit definition then

I'm doing about 20 hours of work a week as part of a socialist org, in service of building up a center of power to actually be able to challenge the lesser and greater fascist.

I'm thinking long term, because I'm not satisfied with "just vote for the less fascist party every four years as each party keeps getting more fascist" If all the work you're doing is within the confines of bourgeois sham-democracy you'll never be able to defeat fascism. Fascism is capitalism in crisis. You can either find a magic cure to stop the contradictions of capitalism from heightening or you can move toward defeating it.

The latter is the only one that has been demonstrated to actually work.

I'm dismissing your framing; I dont live in a swing state, dont try to convince me to vote for the lesser fascist.

My question is, do you care about stopping fascism or do only you care about delaying it for another four years?

Do you care enough about stopping fascism to put in work to stop it outside of election day and trying to post your way into getting people to vote? Like, seriously, are you interested in putting in actual work to prevent fascism in the US in our lifetimes? This isn't a gotcha I'm trying to set a baseline.

What are you doing to stop fascism outside of voting for the lesser fascist?

Fascism cannot be defeated through the ballot box. It is capitalism in decay, when capitalist democracy becomes unviable and the capitalist ruling class choose capitalism over democracy.

Chinese people will need 30 years of disposible income to purchase an apartment; compare to 3 in the U.S.

Who can afford a condo with 3 years disposable income in the US? My spouse and I make above average money in a below average cost city and we couldn't afford a condo here.

"What we actually are hoping for is bloodshed, the moment when the government is ready to brazenly butcher the people. Only when the Square is awash with blood will the people of China open their eyes" - Chai Ling

But they didn't get it, so they had to exaggerate armed skirmishes into "they machinegunned sitting student protestors"

It can’t be the “Tiananmen Square Massacre” for you because then couldn’t draw in PLA members who had heart attacks and died elsewhere that day because they weren’t at the square.

You can literally find photos of protestors posing with burnt and mutilated bodies of PLA soldiers

Oh fuck he is trying to make me say "tiananmen square massacre" now Xi is going to personally come to my house and eat all my grain with his giant spoon.

Or maybe I say June 4th incident because it didn't happen in tiananmen square and massacre isn't the right word for it, considering it was armed PLA vs western armed protestors with around equal casualties before it ended.

The June 4th incident is what it is called in mainland China.