Following Saturday's shooting, Ocasio-Cortez condemned political violence broadly and called the incident "horrific."
"It is absolutely unacceptable and must be denounced in the strongest terms," the congresswoman said. "My heart goes out to all the victims and I wish the former president a speedy recovery."
I agree with you in spirit, but your argument can be stretched to justify actions I'm sure you would not approve of.
What about all the people killed by drone strikes under the Obama administration? Would assassinating him be justifiable as self defense?
And how does killing Trump solve anything? The republican party will keep chugging along fine trying to take your rights away but now they'll have a martyr.
What are you saying? You're not trying to justify political violence, but we're past the point of return. Therefore political violence is necessary?
Why are we past the point of no return? How does political violence reform the system? How does reforming the system change the fact that millions and millions of people vote for someone like Trump?
It's honestly been depressing seeing how seemingly universal this reaction has been. I expected jokes and made some myself amongst friends. But I did not expect the entire community to unite behind a legitimate desire for violence.
What does justified even mean in this context though? Are you in favour of capital punishment? Of vigilante justice?
Trump is a horrible person who, if elected, will harm the lives of very many people. I simply do not believe assassinating him is a legitimate tactic. There are so many problems inherent with political violence that I don't even know where to start.
To me, advocating for political violence is a position detached from reality. Akin to wondering why the western world doesn't simply declare war on Russia over their invasion of Ukraine. It may seem/be the morally correct thing to do, but the consequences of doing it are far reaching and extremely complicated.
Honestly idk what I'm trying to say other than I don't think violence against Nazis is an effective strategy. I think it's reactionary and short sighted and will only make the problem worse.
Y'all are fucking weird. When a right winger makes comments encouraging violence, you denounce it and demand that person face the consequences of their actions. But the Trump assassination attempt has revealed to me that a lot of you are just as reactionary as right wingers. Trump is a horrible person and the world would be better off without him, but if you can't see why assassinating him is not only morally wrong, but also just a bad thing for anyone who has faith we can win the fight against fascism, then quite frankly you've lost the fucking plot.
Kyle went made a joke that condoned an assassination attempt hours after it happened. Literally everyone involved, including Jack Black, and Kyle himself realize that what he said was extremely inappropriate.
Literally everyone in the fucking world realizes that political assassinations are a bad thing, but y'all are over here in your bubble thinking it was totally justified because Trump is a horrible person.
Are you in favour of police brutality? Are you in favour of capital punishment? Why do you get to decide which violence is appropriate and which violence is inappropriate?
Seriously fucking annoyed with Lemmy's user base right now.
Even mild solutions get shouted down. In Canada we have a carbon tax that mostly ends up getting returned to Canadians in the form of a rebate. Reportedly 80% of Canadians receive more from the rebate than they spend on the tax.
The conservative party have managed to politicize the tax and seem poised to win the next election, with "scrap the tax" being a big part of their platform. We have a province literally going rogue and refusing to pay the tax, causing our tax agency to garnish them essentially.
Shit is fucking wild. All over a marginal tax that benefits poor people and punishes the heaviest polluters. People are so fucking stupid and selfish it drives me fucking nuts.
Public transportation, walkability, cycling infrastructure, and public spaces. Why are you so convinced I'm foaming at the mouth hating on america. I'm just a dude who thinks our cities suck.
Thanks for this. Cats being nocturnal never made much sense to me. They're definitely active a lot at night but its not like they just have an inverted sleep schedule from humans.
Not sure how old you are but calling brown people terrorists was extremely common after 9/11.