Ciralinde @ Ciralinde @lemmynsfw.com 帖子 2评论 36加入于 6 mo. ago
Women and ukrainians who live outside of Ukraine, especially those who left before May 2024, have a very different mental image of Ukraine. For me the main turning point is the scale of unlawful forced conscription really. Simple as that. I stopped paying taxes, stopped donating, and stopped mentally supporting Ukraine. I just care for borders to open at this point. Both Ukraine and Russia are hopeless corrupt evil dictatorships to me.
So why don’t you go get conscripted and give up to russian soldiers? If Ukraine is a worse dictatorship, surely that will be a step up.
Just one "step up" from ukrainian levels of shittiness isn't enough. This is too unsafe compared to giving up to EU. Russians will definitely want to trade you to some of their captured people even if you don't want to go back. EU will most likely not trade you back if you ask them.
and on social media
Maybe those people are there to create a picture for you. Now that USAID and similar projects are stopping, we might see less of those.
every so often they bring up what the bonus amount is for people signing up for armed forces in Moscow
You all look at this literally as battle of good vs evil, the reality: ukraine beats, kidnaps and tortures people to send them to meat grinder, while russia stopped forced conscription and pays 22k$ to motivate their conscripts. The propaganda image of ukraine as good or democratic is absurd. It's just a meat shield of west at best, and it rapidly becomes more and more inefficient.
If you want to check current ukrainian inside discourse, watch independent ukrainian bloggers, a few for a start:
our safety is for Ukraine to win the war
It's impossible and it was obvious to anyone who bothered to check basic arithmetic from the very beginning. My best hope is for some kind of ceasefire, elections, peace deal, which all give some little chance that maybe mobilization will stop and borders will open.
you won’t get conscripted into the russian army the moment Kyiv gets occupied
And sent where, to Baltic or Poland? Okay, I'll proceed to give up to NATO soldiers immediately.
And the least we can do for that is to stop pretending russian government has any sort of moral advantage
It's not that they're nice, it's just that ukrainian government turned country into a worse dictatorship than russia is, and it really uncovered some truths about democracies, media, how european are ukrainian values and how helpful UN is, and many other things.
I said it has open borders which is factually true. Also, last summer they paid their conscripts in Moscow 22k$ for a contract. Regarding "human rights", well, lets try to count human rights. We don't have the right to criticise our government and we don't have the right to leave the country. Russians don't have the right to criticize their government but they do have the right to leave the country. They also pretty much free to walk their cities and participate in whatever activities present there unlike our conscription-aged men who are only really allowed to participate in war.
Since it's Kyiv it would mean it's finally over I guess. Russia has open borders so if we eventually end up in Russia we can just leave.
You can, like you said about the girls, just leave if you don’t like the Ukrainian government’s conduct of the war.
I wish I could. It's very hard. All cities are full of blockposts that check docs of all men, there are conscription officers with police at subway station entraces/exits, at bus/train stations, etc. It's hard to even get out of city, it's hard to travel between cities, and borders is a whole different story. EU borders from Ukrainian side are patrolled with night-vision drones, photo-trap cameras, even some helicopters. It takes extraordinary skills and luck to cross the border. And regarding Crimea, can you open the map and tell me how I'm supposed to travel there from Ukraine even if there were no blockposts? I mean, it requires crossing the battlefields. Those who are in Crimea though, they can leave through Russia and go wherever the fuck they want, even go back into Ukraine through basically any intermediate country after leaving Russia.
You don't understand the situation in Ukraine. Military is terribly mismanaged and nobody wants to fight anymore. Since the last spring conscription offices started kidnapping people on the streets, beating, torturing them and forcefully delivering them to polygons. That's why I'm (and many other men who can afford it) not leaving appartment for 10 months already. So it's not only the borders, we can't even leave our homes. Our government doesn't do anything about that terrible mismanagement at battlefields or corruption or about crimes conscription officers commit daily, they only leech help from west and sacrifice people unwilling to fight in return without even trying to win or to fight war efficiently. So US/EU giving money to Ukraine is basically sponsoring kidnapping/torturing/killing people who don't want to fight. Articles like this is pure propaganda.
I'm sorry girls, that's all cool and I like the vibe, but I'm not going to fight for you (I would never fight for people I don't even know personally tbh). Currently I'm not leaving my appartment and waiting for it to be over to be able to leave this country in peace. Those girls though, it's not like they can't leave the Crimea. And actually, it's not like they can't go to Ukraine-controlled territories and mobilize there and go to the frontlines if they really care for this country so much.
Do you consider the right to give up a basic human right? I do. Military service should never be mandatory. Also, the whole concept of nation-states is obsolete and harmful and humanity should try to move to stateless/borderless forms of society.
Could be many things, maybe even major depression. If your doctor fails you, I suggest reading about St John's Wort. There are pill formulations standardized to hyperforin content which might help with depression and possibly other conditions. Helped me with chronic fatigue of unknown cause.
So, I don’t know if you’re aware – and your client may work differently, if you’re not using a browser – but in the Lemmy Web UI, you can expand images that are directly posted by clicking on them.
The main difference is images on imageboards are posted not only as topic or for sharing content, but WITH EVERY MESSAGE in discussions just for fun and for the sake of it. So a person might start posting every message in a thread with a new image of his anime waifu, even though the discussion might be about linux kernel or whatever. This format of conversation is already a culture in itself, but there's more to imageboards. You just have to try both to feel the difference in vibe.
Thanks! I've been digging myself and somehow this is first time I see this particular catalogue! I wonder what's wrong with my google-fu.
I actually would be interested to try a non-anonymous imageboard, but I've never seen one. What I'm seeking there is not anonymity but the way it's structured: linear chatty threads with easily expandable images/videos attached to posts, references to other messages using post number backlinks that show referenced post on hover. The way redditlikes feel with this tree-like structure is totally different and it breeds different types of discussions and totally different vibe. This works better for stricter, more formal, more serious discussions, while imageboards work better for chaotic fun chatty threads with incidental RP and whatnot. In a way, imageboards feel more like chat, but turn-based one instead of real-time, and it's really quite unique vibe.
This platform is good, but I don't see this format as interchangeable with imageboards. For me redditlikes and imageboards are totally different beasts. And even within imageboards, there are actually 2 totally different non-interchangeable types: those like 4chan, a format I'm talking about, the one most often associated with the word "imageboard", and those like gelbooru, which are closer to stuff like pinterest. Still thanks for letting me know about mbin/piefed because I wasn't aware of those.
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