@meldrik @qaz I've got a bunch of older, smaller drives, and as they fail I'm slowly transitioning to much more efficient (and larger) HGST helium drives. I don't have measurements, but anecdotally a dual-drive USB dock with crappy 1.5A power adapter (so 18W) couldn't handle spinning up two older drives but could handle two HGST drives.

@chronicledmonocle @sugar_in_your_tea This is why I love yggdrasil. Thanks to having a VPS running it that all of my hosts globally can connect to, I can just use IPv6 for everything and reverse proxy using those IPv6 addresses where I need to. Once hosts are connected and on my private yggdrasil network, I stop caring about CGNAT or IPv4 at all other than to maybe create public IPv4 access to a service.

@Atemu Drives from the mid/late-2000s in particular were just poorly behaved for me. Recent drives (2014+) have been much better. Who knows how 2030s drives will behave? So I will continue scrubbing data as I swap out older drives for newer ones.

@Atemu Well yes, this is experience of self-hosting for close to 25 years, with a mix of drives over those years. I have noticed much better quality drives in the past decade (helium hdds running cooler/longer, nvram, etc) with declining failure rates and less corruption.

But especially if you're talking about longer time scales like that ("every few decades"), it's difficult to account for technology changes.

@Atemu @beastlykings Every few decades seems optimistic. I have an archive of photos/videos from cameras and phones spanning from early 2000s to mid-2010s. There's not a lot, maybe 6gb; a few thousand files. At some point around the end of that time period, I noticed corruption in some random photos.

Likewise, I have a (3tb) flac archive, which is about 15-20 years old. Nightly 'flac -t' checks are done on 1/60th of the archive, essentially a scrub. Bitrot has struck a dozen times so far.

@IsoKiero I don't know about "latest and greatest", but your bog-standard solution seems about right; just add radicale into the mix, and you've got calendaring and contacts.

@avidamoeba @possiblylinux127 Does your ZFS not print on Tuesdays? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cupsys/+bug/255161/

@semperverus @possiblylinux127 No, this other person has a working 'e' key on their keyboard.

@just_another_person @bluelion Eh, don't discount inertia. A lot of debian development channels are still active on IRC.

@wildbus8979 @Bahnd Yeah, XMPP checks all the boxes. That said, I don't know how well encrypted group chats (MUC) work with various clients.

Also, while message contents are encrypted, metadata is not. Self-hosting ameliorates that, but if your "self-hosting" involves a VPS or whatever hosted by a giant corporation, then that's something to be aware of.

@synapse1278 I recently bought a used 8tb drive off ebay for $45. Manufacturing date on the drive was 2016, but Power_On_Hours was 4 (four!). I asked the seller if they reset SMART data; his response:

"We do not reset power on hours, as we could get in a ton of trouble listing used drives as new bulk etc after altering the power on hours. This one likely was used in/for testing an array etc. "

So I'm pretty pleased with that..

@paperd @chaospatterns Yeah, this is the one I'm currently using. I have my pictures automatically synced to my laptop, and (in the other direction) an audiobooks directory on my laptop automatically synced to my phone.