"If you didn't want fascism you should have voted!"
"If you didn't want fascism you should have voted!"
"If you didn't want fascism you should have voted!"
The Democrats suck but there's a huge difference between voting for boring corporatists and 100% concentrated evil. Don't make me tap the chart.
Pretending Democrats aren't corporatists is just dishonest at this point.
boring corporatists just committed genocide
The "boring corporatists" in germany put Hitler in power btw
Another reminder that BlueMaga don't consider Palestinians human; their complete extermination is just "boring corporatism"
What's the huge difference in outcome? Why is voting the only type of action being considered?
You don't get to do a genocide and then say the other guy is "100% concentrated evil."
No matter what action you took in this last election. You were voting for genocide.
So accusing anyone of voting for genocide is kind of silly because everyone did. No one really had a choice.
You voted for genocide and are now trying to absolve your conscience by claiming you had no choice, and that in reality everyone did what you did.
No, a lot of people didn't do what you did.
We all did, we all voted for it. We didn't all vote for fascism though. That was a you thing probably.
You looked at a party committing genocide -- the worst thing people can do to one another -- and made the decision to co-sign that. I voted for someone who opposed genocide.
No matter how desperately you want to water down the choice you made, it's not the same as the one I made. You don't actually have to shuffle along with genocide because Democrats lied about some half-assed loan forgiveness or something.
Assuming what is in heart incorrectly doesn't counter my facts.
I didn't vote for the Dems because of loan forgiveness, I voted for them because they were the least fascist option.
It's ok though, I understand you are struggling with how your vote supported rapidity brining fascists to power. The large amount of death caused by the loss of USAID. Sending of innocent people to El Salvador concentration camp. Autistic people being marked as non-human. And look at that, it isn't even half way though the first year of this term.
Literally, your only hope right now for a good outcome is if soo many people die that we 180 out of this with a revolution that somehow doesn't result in another authoritarian being in charge soon. Seriously, shit is soo fucked right now, I have become an accelerationist.
Itâs ok though, I understand you are struggling
What do you think you are accomplishing by being such an insufferable ass?
Democrats should be trying to win back voters like me -- voters who have supported lots of Democrats in the past, but who will not support genocide. They (and you) are instead telling those voters to fuck off. They (and you) make a lot of noise about wanting to win elections, but have no strategy besides browbeating voters, a strategy that just failed.
Yes, 100 percent agree. Dems are useless. They could have really made a good showing when Trump started to do the fascist shit. But they decided to roll over and be smug about it.
What do you think you are accomplishing by being such an insufferable ass?
Did you forget you were calling me progenocide a couple replies ago? I'm sorry I was just following the vibe. I guess you can dish it but you can't take it.
I said you voted for genocide because you voted for a party doing genocide. That's not the condescending shit you're doing, that's leveling a direct criticism.
And if you agree Dems are useless... what the fuck are you even saying anymore? They're useless, they're doing a genocide, but you still have to vote for them, because if you voted for someone opposed to the genocide, guess what, you actually voted for genocide!
Incoherent all the way down.
I don't understand why this is so hard for you to understand. There were only two options in the last election. Yeah, the Dems were shit, but they were way less fascist.
If you didn't vote for the Democrats you were voting for fascism. You enabled the fascist party of the United States of America to take charge. You helped fascists take charge of the most powerful country in the world.
As I've stated before, there was no vote that you could make that wasn't going to result in genocide. This whole no voting /voting for a third party thing is just a virtue signal. It's to make you feel good and that's it.
What really makes me sick is it seems like you have no remorse. We didn't know how bad Trump would be. But now that we do know you don't seem to care.
At least I feel bad about the dead Palestinians. You seem to have no remorse whatsoever over the harm and death that will be caused by the people that you have helped put into power.
I hope you realize it eventually and learn from it.
What a fucking absurd thing for someone who supports genocide to say
You don't get to define what evil is when you voted for the antichrist.
I'm comfortable saying genocide is evil
"Everyone who doesn't share my casually fascist politics is just irrational, mentally incompetent if you will, and not worthy of consideration"
"We don't have to argue with Communists, we can just call them dirty commies and plug our ears"
When the commies refuse to grasp reality that is what people will say.
It sure must be convenient to be able to simply gesture and posture around, rather than grapple with the arguments of others.
I'm new here and just trying to fit in.. I guess I was confused after seeing all the people with .ml after their names do the exact same shit.
Users on Lemmy.ml or Lemmygrad.ml tend to be Marxists of some kind, which means they tend to have similar analysis, though many Lemmy.ml users aren't Marxists, but also Anarchists or even liberals.
I'm fully aware. That doesn't change my statement. That's not even relevant to the discussion.
Are you saying its ok for for them to simply gesture and posture rather than grapple with arguments? I really don't see why you typed that.
Your statement was empty, though. You just dodged having to engage with the argument. You were the one gesturing.
You can read through this post. I've commented many times. I don't feel the need to have the same conversation with multiple people who all share the same lack of motivation to do anything besides sit on the sidelines and jerk each other off about how their preferred method of governance would fix everything while they can't even be bothered to do the most base civic duty to push for the change they allegedly want. Its fucking exhausting.
And for the record I think capitalism is a fucking virus. I also think people who refuse to engage with the system to change it have no right to complain about it. The US is the most militarized police state in the world. You aren't helping shit by telling people not to vote. Your actively damaging all the work others are doing.
"no u"
Sounds like someone who is really confident in the strength of their arguments and the courage of their convictions
So true, bestie, everyone who disagrees with me and cites their sources are irrational. True rational enlightened thinkers just call their interlocutors tankies and log off.