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But Palestine hurr Durr
You dumb fucks know how many more Palestine's there's gonna be if he gets in? You can kiss Ukraine goodbye, and probably hong kong too. This is nothing.
2016-2020 was the beta test. If this goes into production we're all fucked.
- You dumb fucks know how many more Palestine’s there’s gonna be if he gets in?
  It seems like such a basic concept; trump means more dead Palestinians. How can someone simultaneously claim to support Palestinians and advocate for more dead Palestinians?
  
  Advocating against voting for Democrats, no matter what the particular language, is advocating for actions that will increase the chances of Trump getting elected, of Republicans having majorities and of Israel's further escalation in Palestine, in addition to all the other bad things Republicans will do.
  The time to move Democrats on the issues is not now. Those times were during the primaries (in which I voted uncommitted on the presidential level and for pro-palestinian candidates on other levels) and after the election through things like lobbying.
  If there are particular third-party candidates who have any reasonable chance of winning rather than being a spoiler (I don't know of any), it's reasonable to advocate to their electorate that one vote for them instead of the Democratic candidate. However, if one supports Palestinians and opposes genocide, the best vote in the presidential election and in most national or state elections on November 5 is for the Democratic candidate. That's not a "vote blue no matter who" opinion or an "all you need to do is vote for the Dems" opinion. It's harm reduction in the short term so that we can ensure that there actually are medium and long terms for as many people as possible.
  
  What primary?
- You dumb fucks know how many more Palestine’s there’s gonna be if he gets in? You can kiss Ukraine goodbye, and probably hong kong too. This is nothing.
  Tankies would love that, though.
- I echo the sentiment (regarding Trump being a much, much worse outcome), but you can already "Kiss Hong Kong goodbye". It's part of China, they have cracked down, and the two systems has been reduced to like 1.5 systems ahead of schedule.
  I am genuinely curious what you think either presidential candidate would do about this, considering they will continue to espouse the One China policy. Where they might differ is in their support of Taiwan, whose status is much more murky.
  Hong Kong though? Pretty sure that ship sailed once the UN decided: no Empire no longer, and the 99 year lease came to an end.
  
  Ope sorry I meant Taiwan
  
  Lol, yeah this makes more sense. Thanks for clarifying 😅
  
  Nah china already has that under control with their summer camps and organ harvesting

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