Trump calls to "clean out" Gaza and move Palestinians to Egypt and Jordan

"Both parties are the same."
"A vote for Harris is a vote for genocide."
- If you really think Harris would have done anything significant to restrain Israel I envy your optimism. Voters' only realistic choices for Palestine this election were for furrowed brows or enthusiastic cheerleading, but Israel was getting weapons and political cover for whatever it wanted to do either way.
  
  If you really think Harris would have called for a total ethnic cleansing of Palestine, you paid zero attention to anything she ever said.
  How many Palestinians did you ask about who to vote for? Because the Palestinians I talked to before the election were not fans of Harris, but rightfully far more terrified of Trump. I actually go out of my way to talk to Palestinians, and so many people berating me for not caring about genocide or whatever, when I ask them how often they talk to Palestinians, they don't answer.
  
  And now the conflict is winding down just in time for the new presidency. Both parties have reached an agreement and Trump is now fanning the flames again. It wouldn't have happened with Harris.
  This "Harris wouldn't have done anything different" is moot.
- Considering she stated she would do nothing different than Biden, yes it is another vote for genocide. The only difference offered between the 2 political parties on this issue is, lip service and ‘another month to leave’. To say the dems were seriously offering a different stance here is cope
  
  Trump is literally doing something different than Biden. He literally wants Palestine cleared of Palestinians. Biden never even approached saying something like that.
  No one is claiming Biden or Harris would be good for Palestine. This is far, far worse.
  Or is this is one of these "what are you going to believe, me or your own eyes" things?
  
  On Monday, Trump signed an executive order nullifying sanctions targeting dozens of far-right Israeli settlers and organizations accused of violence against Palestinians. The Treasury Department officially terminated these sanctions on Friday, unblocking their US assets and financial access. This action reverses Biden's February 2024 executive order that had sanctioned Israeli settlers for violent actions in the West Bank, signaling a significant shift in US policy towards Israeli settlements.
  In his interview with Time magazine:
  Do you still support a two-state solution?
  I support whatever solution we can do to get peace. There are other ideas other than two state, but I support whatever, whatever is necessary to get not just peace, a lasting peace. It can't go on where every five years you end up in tragedy. There are other alternatives.
  Today's headline: Trump says he wants to 'clean out' Gaza and move Palestinians to Jordan and Egypt
  All in one week. No difference, right?
- Are you seriously calling what Trump wants here "less severe" than genocide?
  Also, quibbling about the difference between genocide and ethnic cleansing is fucking sick.
  
  Christ, you people will justify anything to avoid saying you were wrong.
  
  Ethnic cleansing is a synonym for genocide. You may be under the impression that genocide by modern definitions does not include forced relocation, or that ethnic cleansing necessarily can not include killing. You are wrong. What you probably meant was that forced relocation is a less severe form of genocide than extermination. You didn't say that though.
  
  The Democrats showed no signs of seriously wanting to end the genocide
  The cease fire was literally agreed upon while Biden was still president. It was Biden's diplomats working to make it happen.
  
  This is genocide. Jesus Christ...
  
  Ah yes, synonym is less severe than synonym.
  Very good argument. Very good point.
  Yes, both parties doing bad thing makes bad thing okay. Make sense. If my neighbors all decided we can blow up the next block over for reasons, it definitely makes it very cool and very legal for me to help.
  This is the dumbest take I’ve ever seen in my life.

But .ml was telling us that Trump would stop the genocide not supercharge it. How can this be? /s
- The tankies would never worship and cover for authoritarians!/s
- Tbd, it is one way to stop a genocide. Literally the worst one, but it would stop.
  
  Wasn’t it literally plan A for the Nazis?
  
  No, fucking stop. Ethnic cleansing is genocide. Period.
  Or was the Naqba not genocidal?
- Ethnic cleansing is a step below genocide. The Democrats went for genocide. So far Trump only wants ethnic cleansing. Also his argument for ethnic cleansing is the destruction that the Democrats caused during the genocide.
  This is not defend Trump. It is to remember that the Democrats are as equally part of the oligarchy and criminal empire as the Republicans. No positive change can come out of the current Democratic party. It needs to be reformed from the bottom up, or replaced by an actually progressive party.
  
  Go read the actual definition of genocide and then come back.
  
  If Palestinians felt that being displaced from their homes was acceptable, they would have left a long time ago.
  This is not an improvement. This is Israel's 'final solution' coming to fruition. Those that allowed Trump to be elected are complicit.

Good job with your protest votes! You sure helped those Gazans!
- We sure taught the DNC a lesson!
  
  The DNC sucks bigtime but at least Harris had a heart.
  
  Maybe next time, you democrats could get off your fucking asses and actually be useful to the nation, eh?
- You're indistinguishable from a nazi but you will never internalize why.
  
  🤡
  
  Must be all those sending my heart gestures and roman salutes I do on a daily basis because I'm autistic and awkward.
  
  Weird, I've never seen a person directly address themselves in a Lemmy comment like this... I can appreciate that you've recognized your errors though.

And there we go, exactly as expected because trump literally said he would do this.
To all those "genocide Joe" assholes who thought that somehow not getting Harris elected would be a good thing: you've just murdered millions.
- We are sending more bombs, pay attention. The genocide a bunch of clowns were pretending to fret about is about to kick into overdrive.
  
  Oh yeah, you're right.
  Now that trump is president, Israel retreated out of Gaza and immediately stopped bombing the crap out of those civilians and trump pushed to make Palestine a recognized state!
  You were so right and I was so wrong, how could I not have seen this coming?

Oh so this is why Egypt is still getting foreign aid.
- Curiously not Jordan though

"Clean out", "cleansing", same difference.

Well yeah. How else is Jared gonna make a killing?
- Playing Slenderman at Halloween?

I think this is a sensible plan. Next after Gaza, Ukrainians should be resettled in Poland, and then Americans in Europe.
/s

- Several million Democrats, mostly minorities, were purged from voter rolls or were never counted.
  
  No they weren’t. This is some Blueanon shit

Ben-Gvir and Smotrich in heaven now.

"Just use a rake."
-Trump, allegedly

The protests worked...in mysterious ways.