"You're not supposed to be so blind with patriotism that you can't face reality. Wrong is wrong, no matter who says it"
Edited for legibility
Literally all you post about is "don't vote Biden".
You always capitalise Russia, but then generalise "the west".
You never go against Trump or the Republicans. Always just "don't vote Democrats".
And weirdly you seem to try this "both sides" bullshit even when you do the rare comment about something other than "don't vote genocide Joe", like in this thread where you're talking about the Russo-Ukrainian war carefully without taking a side on the issue.
So, how would one recognise an actual Russian troll, btw? Like... they probably wouldn't admit to being one, would they?
Tired talking points.
"I know trump is bad, but democrats are worse!"
"Republicans at least show who they really are, democrats decieve their constituents!"
"I'm not for Russia, but Ukraine should just ceasefire, so there's no more bloodshed."
"I know genocide would be even worse under Republicans, but Genocide Joe should concede and let someone else run."
"Both sides are the same, so a vote for either side is a vote for the same thing."
You always capitalise Russia, but then generalise “the west”.
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You're supposed to capitalize the name of countries, and not geo-poltical regions...
Hell, by your logic since you capitalized trump and republicans it means you support them and not that you're fighting autocorrect to make a very very small point.
So, how would one recognise an actual Russian troll, btw? Like… they probably wouldn’t admit to being one, would they?
One thing people look for is an unfamiliarity with the convoluted rules of English. Like not knowing what gets capitalized...
But by 2024 most people have realized social media comments rarely have that much thought put into them. If say a good way is looking at where they spend their time. We know from a recent study (can't be bothered to Google it right now).
But it's safe to say people with nefarious reasons for posting wouldn't spend their time on one of the smallest social media platforms.
Like, just think about it rationally for a second. Why wouldn't they do it on Facebook, Twitter, Reddit, Instagram, TikTok, or somewhere else their audience would be tens or hundreds of millions? Why spend the same amount of effort where even if it takes off, your audience is like not going to exceed more than a few thousand at most?
I'm just fucking tired of people constantly accusing each other of being professional state actors.
It's something trump would do...
You're supposed to capitalize the name of countries, and not geo-poltical regions
I have no interest in the substance of the argument which has nothing to do with the grammar, but, yes you are. “We need to go west to reach the river” is lower case, “we need to align with the West to reach our goals” is capitalized.
Look up. The point went right over your head.
That’s a HUGE wall of text to illustrate that you don’t understand proper grammar. You absolutely capitalize the West when referring to a nation.
You're supposed to capitalize the name of countries, and not geo-poltical regions...
It's not about grammar rules. It's about the psychology behind the specific choices.
Like using "females" in a social setting. It tells a lot.
Why wouldn't they do it on Facebook, Twitter, Reddit, Instagram, TikTok, or somewhere else their audience would be tens or hundreds of millions?
Because these things aren't mutually exclusive, that's why. They're doing it on allplatforms. You found your way here. Do you think the average or even specifically trained Russian is so much dumber they couldn't find their way here..?
That sounds rather racist, bro.
in this thread where you’re talking about the Russo-Ukrainian war carefully without taking a side on the issue.
I think russia is in the wrong and deserves to lose, but I think Ukraine does not have the numbers to win on their own and I think the US knows this but is only really after hurting russia's economic ability to pursue their further imperial ambitions. Since russia has entered a wartime economy I don't think this is likely anymore and we are creating a situation where russia has no reason not to continue and a larger conflict with NATO is likely.
Does that help clarify?
Literally all you post about is “don’t vote Biden”.
Close: I post a lot of agitation for democrats to demand better from their party, and i've mocked the impulse to signal loyalty despite knowing what the democrats are doing is wrong, but I have never encouraged anyone not to vote. Democrats have no reason to address criticism if they are confident voters will turn out regardless, that's the impetus of my strategic agitation. I could be wrong and it could be misguided but I don't think it is.
You always capitalise[sic] Russia, but then generalise[sic] “the west”.
I don't know how to take this, considering it's a comment about proper capitalization that's filled with typos/misspellings. If i've ever failed to capitalize another country's name it isn't on purpose. Since you're more familiar with my comment history i'll let you point out which ones i've made that mistake in and I'll correct them as needed. I'll even de-capitalize russia if you want, i don't give a fuck.
So, how would one recognise[sic] an actual Russian troll, btw? Like… they probably wouldn’t admit to being one, would they?
I've repeatedly had this conversation with you, I don't feel it necessary to have it again. You can suspect me of being a troll if you want but since it's not possible for me to prove to you otherwise I don't think it's worthy of addressing. Mods can verify my IP address area if they feel its warranted. It's making me uncomfortable that i've attracted this much attention from you though, out of concern of being doxxed I'm thinking I should start using a VPN.
Please stop harassing me.
i dont get it.. broad democratic support === fascism?
i always though facism was a much more specific construct.. ie a far-right, authoritarian, ultra-nationalistic political ideology and movement, characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition
Oh get over yourself.
He paused one shipment, then a week later sent a shipment twice as big.
Such mental gymnastics to say when Trump does it it's actual fascism bit when Biden does it it's like not even really fascism, man, and... BuT tRuMp!!!@!@
We have 2 far right fascist parties in America. That simple.
That doesn’t in any capacity excuse 8 months and counting of the Democrats funding and supporting Israel’s crimes
Yup
but it does make it a little weird for someone who cares deeply about the Palestinian people to single out the Democrats as the problem that needs to be addressed, in order to help the Palestinians
Not when democrats are supposed to be the ones fighting for justice and they aren't.
That's what fascism is, yes. The point being made, I think, is that Democrats are claiming to be anti-fascist while also supporting a fascist government in Israel.
makes sense, thanks!
i dont get it… broad democratic support === fascism?
No, the logic is actually:
Israel == a fascist state
Democrats continue supporting Israel -> Democrats are supporting a fascist state
Saying 'we are an anti-fascist coalition' is in tension with that coalition supporting a fascist state.
Ya... "far right" doesn't mean "republican" and "democrat" doesn't mean "left".
Maybe relative to eachother, but I don't even buy that anymore.
Hilary dragged the Democrat party to the right. Biden has dragged it to full fascism levels of right.
The genocide is the big "he is doing a fascism" clue.
The 93 billion dollars for police militarization and creation of cop cities around the nation in the likeness of Atlantas is the second biggest clue.
broad democratic support
Meaning, of course:
I think they meant broad Democratic support, referring to the party
Even if that's what they meant, Dem voters don't want to fund a genocide.
But the leaders of both parties do.
Because they're paid to want that.
https://www.opensecrets.org/industries/summary?cycle=All&ind=Q05&recipdetail=S
And that's not even accounting for the other side of the money: American arms manufactures
https://www.opensecrets.org/news/reports/capitalizing-on-conflict/defense-contractors
The victims of genocide rarely have the cash to bribe US politicians
Neither here nor there but if you add a black outline or shadow to white text it becomes a lot more readable. See how it kinda blurs with the background in the first panel? On Photoshop you can do this easily by selecting the text layers, right click, blending options.
Do they? I think the bigger issue is the geopolitical value of Israel as an ally.
There being a reason for supporting a fascist state doesn't negate the fact that they are supporting a fascist state.
Russia and China wouldn’t be prolifically seeding ideas about abandoning Israel otherwise. Israel’s an indescribably useful platform for military campaigns.
That's the same thing.
This
Take this stupid shit back to hexbear.
As long as "other guy" is worse, that gives license to do anything, including supporting genocide, according to democrats.
You van fully support voting Biden to ensure no Trump without supporting his policies, in particular the policies on Israel. They were wrong before this current ramped up genocide, with a sloe burn genocide.
However, most times when someone is critical in this way its not because they want change, they want to damage Biden, not seek better.
Making political hat with genocide is pretty poor too.
my satan. if every decent person only voted for canidates where they agreed with all their stances and actions then only non decent persons would vote. I really feel like folks don't understand democracy. Its about compromise its impossible to have a democracy that runs exactly as one would want things to go. The only way to get that is if the one is a dictator.
Every disaster humans face has at least one antisocial freaking out and threatening to take everyone down. It's got to be one of the most depressing cliches.
To the other people in the comments: if you use Trump as whataboutism you're the reason why nothing gets done
Based.
Everyone saying that Biden is the only choice is the reason the Genocide is possible.
Everyone advocating for Biden is advocating for Genocide. This is a fact and no amount of Blue MAGA mental gymnastics changes it.
Not Voting for Biden, voting third party, or not voting are avenues for a trump win. Your implication that we shouldn’t vote Biden, should vote trump, or not vote, is complicit in genocide. Trump has already stated that he will give Israel free rein to “finish the job”, therefore your position to not support Biden seeks to eliminate the overtures for ceasefire attempts by the current Biden admin.
So you’re either actively supporting Israel, supporting trump, or maybe both and a tankie tool to boot.
Trump has already stated that he will give Israel free rein to “finish the job”
Biden has also given Israel free rein, and is sending munitions and billions of dollars to help them.
So Trump might actually be better. Maybe Trump will be too cheap to send billions of dollars.
I don't even take issue with voting for Biden at this point, I just find 'we are an anti-fascist coalition' to be the most self-valorizing shitlib statement i've ever seen, especially when everyone here insists they don't support Israel's war crimes and think we shouldn't be defending them.
They don't get to larp unopposed as anti-fascist revolutionaries when they've quietly accepted the choice they've been given 5 months out from election day, at least not while I still haven't been banned for mocking them relentlessly. They should feel miserable about the shit choice like everyone else does.