The Biden Campaign is Courting an Unexpected Group of Voters: Republicans
The Biden Campaign is Courting an Unexpected Group of Voters: Republicans
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… because that strategy’s never backfired on a regular basis for the Dems before …
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What are you talking about?
This was definitely NOT a huge component of the Hillary Clinton campaign.
It also definitely did NOT play into the Democrat's delusion that any left leaning voters they lost by shifting to the right would be replaced by the GOP moderates it would attract.
Oh, and Chuck Schummer also NEVER repeatedly made these claims in public, or during media appearances.
So yeah, this is a bold and definitely BRAND NEW strategy.
No way it goes tits up.
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Yay. more joe manchins. hurray. I am so excited.
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"For every blue-collar Democrat we lose in western Pennsylvania, we will pick up two moderate Republicans in the suburbs in Philadelphia, and you can repeat that in Ohio and Illinois and Wisconsin." -Chuck Schumer, 2016
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There are still blue-collar Democrats in Western PA? I thought they went extinct in the early aughts
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Sure there are, but they're all in Pittsburgh. As soon as you venture outside of city limits it's a very different story.
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That's not unexpected, since Clinton and his DLC, the modus operandi has been to court the right wing vote, and as they do, the entire party shifts to the right to accommodate them.
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See one party is doing it's best to run a country with a Conservative government. I disagree but at least it's respectable.
The other is doing it's best to bring about a free market theocracy.
The Democrats assume the other guys are operating in good faith, and so happily follow along as everyone moves to the right.
We ask for healthcare and we give the biggest gift to the insurance companies in a century. We ask for student debt reform and we get a few handouts while millions of kids every year continue to sign up for predatory student loans. We ask that our children at least be safe in school, and crickets...
I'm not saying this is one guy's fault, this is the result of a trend that's been going on for decades. But the Democrats are attempting to curry votes from a group that will never support them and leaving the passionate base behind. And after January 6th I'm just left wondering why the fuck they're negotiating with terrorists?
If nothing is getting done until you have a majority at least for the love of God, swing for the bleachers. Get people excited again.
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And after January 6th I'm just left wondering why the fuck they're negotiating with terrorists?
Because most Dems like the status quo and despise populism.
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And after January 6th I’m just left wondering why the fuck they’re negotiating with terrorists?
The alternative involves listening to progressives.
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Clinton had downloadable content?
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Politicians accommodating what voters want? What do they think this is, a democracy?
They wouldn't have to shift so far right if the far left wasn't too busy being angry that the politicians are doing what the voters want to go out and vote themselves.
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Are referring to some silent majority? Conservative voters are historically an over represented voting block.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/27/us/gerrymander-explainer.html
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More evidence the US is not a progressive country and anyone who thinks it is will be disappointed by election results for their entire lives.
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Right now the goal of electoral politics is to move back toward like… classic liberalism. As opposed to neoliberalism or worse, fascism
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The data [from Pew] suggests that the progressive vision of winning a presidential election simply by mobilizing strong support from Democratic constituencies simply did not materialize for Mr. Biden.
Wtf did I just read? The idea is to mobilize strong support from Democratic constituencies by running a progressive candidate who supports progressive causes. Obviously, if you run a right-winger like Biden, he'll draw more support from the right and fail to mobilize the left. Are they trying to pretend that Biden was a progressive or something? What an incredible take.
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Has he tried sounding racist when pitching his immigration policy?
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Modern Times require Retro Joe solutions
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Would be nice if he courted the existing left leaning part of the democratic party, but fuck it let's try and please the party that tried to overthrow the government
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And this is the game we always play. Biden will try to get enough conservative voters to overcome the resistance from the actual left. If he manages then we go further right like we always have and if he fails we go even further right like we always have. That's the great thing about Democrat presidents. They accomplish the same thing as Republican presidents. Just a little bit slower.
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There's nothing that I can say to disprove those points. I do have to say that Bernie gaining as much popularity as he did let's me see the light at the end of the tunnel. I'm pushing 40, always been very left. 1st primary I voted for Dennis Kucinich. Seeing someone with the same talking points and advocate for, generally, the same overall policy agenda get as much mainstream traction as Bernie has does inspire some optimism. Voter turnout in the primaries is so huge, I would also like to see the Dems ditch the EC model for their primaries as well. Biden got elected on the backs of Southern black votes (holdover good will from him being Obamas VP) and that caused him to win deep red states that he would never win in the general. Though I'm hoping Georgia turning blue wasn't an anomaly.
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The left wing is gonna vote for him anyway, if they vote at all. Half of the leftists I talk to don’t even vote because they say democracy is a failure and nothing matters. To a liberal, a leftist is an extremist.
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I got really lucky and hit by a car 5 years ago that let me buy a condo that has doubled in value. This leftist is going to call it a day. I'm looking at places maybe in Uruguay to move to hopefully before November. I don't know who to blame but I do know the Democrats and the Republicans are both not anything I ever want to support. And sure give me a party of Democrats that is built from politicians like Bernie Sanders or AOC, and I'll happily vote Democrat but that's a fantasy. The Democrats themselves are far right enough that they hate those candidates and their positions.
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So it would make sense to show them democracy isn't dead and inspire them to vote? Or just cuddle up with fascists? This just shows those disenfranchised voters it is dead and what's the point since biden would rather work with people actively trying to destroy democracy than work with the new largest voting bloc in this country
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Well, let's think about that. In 2023, only 27% of Americans identified as Democrats. This matched the number of people who identified as Republicans, while a massive 43% picked 'independent' as the party of choice. However, when you ask voters what political ideology they identify with, you get a more interesting numbers. 29% of people describe themselves as Socially Liberal or Very Liberal, and only 21% describe themselves as Fiscally Liberal or Very Liberal. This means that 71% of people do not see themselves as Socially Liberal in any way (and 38% see themselves as Socially Conservative to some degree!), and a stunning 79% do not see themselves as Fiscally Liberal in any way (with 44% seeing themselves as Fiscally Conservative to some degree!). So, is there some amount of wonder that Biden might try to tact in the direction where the majority of Americans are?
44% of Americans lean in the direction of Fiscal Conservatism, and another 35% don't see themselves as Conservative, but also don't see themselves as Liberal. Biden's got to reach out to this group of people, because he can't win with 21% of the vote. So instead of bitching at him, maybe motivate more of that 79% who are Fiscally Moderate or Conservative but possibly Socially Liberal to embrace your policies, while turning out reliably for the leftest main stream party candidate between the Rs and the Ds until you can get RCV passed, then make sure to get your people to rank people from the left to the centre and not rank the right-wing candidates.
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You are doing some hard work for a Gallup poll that only represents people who have a landline or answer unknown numbers so basically absolutely worth nothing
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Of which they'll get 0
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I think they will get a percentage of the "never Trump" section of the Republican party. The real question is what that percentage of the Republican party actually is, as admitting that currently can open people's worlds to a deluge of toxicity/ostracizing.
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as much as they might (or might not) hate Trump, Republicans are still going to vote the party line
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Why would they vote Demonrat when they could vote libertarian or RFK Jr?
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I think they will get a percentage of the “never Trump” section of the Republican party.
You're both right. Any percentage of zero is zero.
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I’m not so sure. I think it’s established that the percentage of Republicans who won’t vote for Trump is a lot higher than the percentage that will admit to it in front of their peers.
All we need is a few %, low single digits.
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Your uncertainty doesn't have bearing here. There is a preponderance of evidence showing that since 2016 (and before), there number of 'swing' voters has diminished to basically nothing.
Neither Trump nor Biden are actually running against each other , because no voters are going to be converted from one side to the other.
They are both running against "the couch", in that whoever can convince enough of their voters that the election is worth showing up for, will win.
Also, if you were a Republican, why wouldn't you vote for Trump? He delivered, in one way or another, on all the major policy goals of the base. For the Republican agenda, he's been the most effective president since Reagan.
Bidens camp is in a fever dream with this strategy. And I agree with the article. it is their strategy.
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But at least they get to show progressives who they prefer.
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I think Republicans are finally waking up to the fact their party has been hijacked by MAGA and their own interests don't align with Trump's personal interests.
I still can't believe how willing they are to parrot Russian propaganda though given how things were a mere 20 years ago.
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Biden posturing as a Republican will not make Republicans vote for him.
Adopting rightwing policies ‘does not help centre-left win votes’
But it will help shift the general public more to the right and get neoliberals bending over backwards to start defending Republican policies when Biden implements them so all according to keikaku.
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This is the best summary I could come up with:
The Biden campaign, while struggling to drum up support from some of the key members of its coalition in 2020, is trying to gain votes from an entirely different group: Republicans who aren't interested in backing former President Donald Trump.
On Thursday, the campaign announced a new member of their team: Austin Weatherford, who served as former Republican Rep. Adam Kinzinger's chief of staff.
The announcement comes as the Biden campaign ramps up efforts to court supporters of former South Carolina Governor Nikki Haley.
"Nothing has changed for the millions of Republican voters who continue to cast their ballots against Donald Trump in the primaries," Biden campaign communications director Michael Tyler said in a statement the day Haley made her announcement.
"They wanted to work to earn the votes of Haley voters despite some policy differences," Schwartz said of the Biden campaign during the call.
The Biden campaign says they are also doing work behind the scenes to obtain potential endorsements from key Republicans as well, but those announcements are more likely to come closer to Election Day, when voters are more tuned in.
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The double haters.
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That is in no way unexpected.
Exactly. And the other comments so far are pretty ignorant. All close elections are won by winning over independents AND people registered to the other party. Just because Republicans in Congress appear largely in lock-step with Trump doesn't mean Republican voters are.
It's fair to speculate that many Trump haters left the Republican party in 2016 and more in 2020. But certainly not all of them. And beyond the Trump haters are a swathe of people uncertain or uncomfortable with Trump who can be won over.
Not what I meant. Democrats will bend over backwards to try to appeal to Republicans before they ever consider appealing to alienated progressives.
The real travesty is that this is a close election.
Not true. It's also possible to win by increasing your side's turnout. And independents aren't all centrists.
Republicans already have a major party catering directly to their interests. Meanwhile a full third of the country doesn't vote. Obviously it's a better strategy to give non-voters a reason to be engaged rather than trying to win over people who hate you and everyone who looks like you.
Joe Biden is courting an unexpected group of voters: the other half
That's basically the headline.
Progressives and leftists are once again marginalized