Electric Cars Are Suddenly Becoming Affordable

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Recently, Mr. Lawrence said, customers have been snapping up used Teslas for a little over $20,000, after applying a $4,000 federal tax credit.

Oh, so you mean used electric cars.

Carmakers including Tesla, Ford, General Motors and Stellantis, the owner of Jeep, have announced plans for electric vehicles that would sell new for as little as $25,000.

Oh, so you mean not yet, but maybe affordable soon.

For fuck's sake...

I paid too much for my EV, but am glad to see the prices come down for future buyers. When the price is competitive with ICE vehicles, I think we’ll see rapid adoption.

fuck you NYT, define affordable... Nope, that's not affordable.

Over 20k used, meanwhile China's getting literally half the price new. But dems and republicans have joined hands in stopping this boon for the climate.

But can they make them much much bigger? I hope so! It worked for ICE cars right? Just make them as big as a house and watch every day as they park north, south, east and west bound on the various freeways for the night.

Good, they should be far cheaper than gasoline cars. America is losing to China when it comes to EVs, and many other things.

Are they all crossovers or trucks with a massive touchscreen and spyware?

You know in 2021 I thought that the MSM was deliberately ignoring the issues with EVs and promoting overly rosy timelines as part of a political agenda.

After seeing the massive amount of FUD they published about EVs over the past year, I think they are just bad at their jobs.

It feels like the media covers EVs based on vibes versus doing actual research. As a result they've consistently publish articles that are either borderline nonsense hopium or complete doomerism.

IMO I still think hybrids will be instrumental tech over the next decade. Those 300 mile EVs often get much worse range in weather conditions that are common in many parts of the country. It's also simply going to take considerable time for fast charging infrastructure to become ubiquitous enough to truly address range anxiety.

There is currently a bizarre anomaly in the market due to several massive rental car companies dumping their rolling stock. The tech isn't yet there and there are a lot of interesting issues with depreciation.

Fuck the NY times

You couldn't pay me to switch to an EV.

Bringing down the dealership price means fuck all if they’re worthless on the second hand market, unless there’s some miracle tech that prevents the battery capacity from dropping like a lead balloon internal combustion engines are never going away. A car from the 50s can still travel the same distance on a full tank but an electric car from the early 2010s can barely get around a car park on a full charge.

Hydrogen is the way to go, it can be created using clean energy and it’s exhaust tends to be cleaner than the air it took in.

Toyota managed to run an engine from the 80s on high pressure hydrogen with barely any alterations and there have been trials where mains gas in the uk has been replaced with hydrogen. We’re so close to having the access required to transition to hydrogen but there’s only one or two models that can use it rn.