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Trump's drumbeat of lies about the 2020 election keeps getting louder. Here are the facts

With Donald Trump facing felony charges over his attempts to overturn the 2020 election, the former president is flooding the airwaves and his social media platform with distortions, misinformation and unfounded conspiracy theories about his defeat.

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The guy got up on stage ON ELECTION NIGHT before the votes had even been counted and started screaming about fraud. I remember Mike Huckabee on CNN condemning it, as well as the Faux News team covering it, because it was just unthinkable. Then they got their story straight and remembered who's ass their tongue is buried in, and fell in line. Bunch of traitors, the lot of them.
- Reminder that Steve Bannon frankly confessed Trump's Start the Steal conspiracy plans to a group of Trump insiders before the election.
  https://www.npr.org/2022/07/22/1112138665/jan-6-committee-hearing-transcript
  …audio from Trump advisor, Steve Bannon, surfaced from October 31st, 2020, just a few days before the Presidential election.
  Let’s listen. [Begin Videotape]
  STEVE BANNON: And what Trump’s going to do is declare victory, right? He’s going to declare victory, but that doesn’t mean he’s a winner. He’s just gonna say he’s a winner. The Democrats — more of our people vote early that count. Theirs vote in mail. And so they’re going to have a natural disadvantage and Trump’s going to take advantage — that’s our strategy.
  He’s gonna declare himself a winner. So when you wake up Wednesday morning, it’s going to be a firestorm. Also — also if Trump is — if Trump is losing by 10 or 11:00 at night, it’s going to be even crazier. Because he’s gonna sit right there and say they stole it. If Biden’s wining, Trump is going to do some crazy shit.
  
  Trump telegraphied his move for months, even years. The whole thing about mail-in bailot, and how he wouldn't accept the result.
  Well, turns out Trump has been calling virtually everything since he was born rigged. Seriously, there are 8 decades of history of Trump cheating and calling whatever it oa rigged. It blows my mind that this guy with a very transparent history gets to call the election rigged like it was his teenager beauty pageant and it could means the end of America.
  Where the fuck do we go from here.
- He was screaming about fraud in the 2016 election HE WON. O_O
  And that's not the end of it, his surrogates claimed fraud in various districts in 2020 that he ALSO won.
  It's all about making people doubt elections.
  
  Which confuses me to this day, because doesn't it make Republicans less likely to vote since they think their vote doesn't matter?
This is all going to come to a head soon, they aren't going to let him run. Secretaries of state are going to leave him off the ballot citing the 14th amendment and his supporters will go bonkers. My prediction is it will start with blue states but when GA announces, all hell will break loose.
- This is all going to come to a head soon, they aren’t going to let him run. Secretaries of state are going to leave him off the ballot citing the 14th amendment and his supporters will go bonkers. My prediction is it will start with blue states but when GA announces, all hell will break loose.
  I think this is a very salient opinion.
- I hope you're right, but I would not be at all surprised if every single red state keeps him in their ballot.
  
  Red states will leave him on, blue states sill take him off. It's the battleground states like NV, GA, MI that are going to get ugly. His campaign will challenge those in court and when they lose, I'm kind of scared of what's coming. But it needs to happen. They need to end this fucker before election day. He's disqualified hands down.
- It won't really matter unless enough states remove him from the ballot to deny him the 270 electoral votes.
  
  It wont matter that solid blue states like CA remove him, true. But swing states like MI and GA will effectively end his campaign. And i think when that happens, Jan 6th was just a preview.
This is an unpopular opinion.
Trump is the best candidate the left could ask for as an opponent in the 2024 election, in the same manor that Hillary was the best candidate the right could as for in 2016.
He's weighed down by a ton of baggage. He's not particularly popular outside of a core group of supporters. He has no real policies of his own. He doesn't "represent" anything in that we already know what we're getting. Also, with him in the game, the Republicans don't get to pivot and rebrand to some kind of bullshit "fiscal conservatism" like they should probably be doing to try and get away from the MAGA branding.
The Dems can run a steady, narrow, by the book campaign and it will go better than things went in 2020. People are sick of MAGA, their bullshit, and just their total lack of constructive idealism. They offer nothing and at least some of the country has come around to that.
We don't want to face a Mike Pence running on fiscal conservatism or moral purity as an opposition candidate to Trump. He could stand a chance. With Trump still in the scene, no other opponent really has a chance, and Trump is damaged goods for enough of the country his path is pretty fucking narrow.
- That's the same thing a lot of people were saying in 2016.
  The dude has helped give a voice to the bigots and fascists around the world, let alone the US. Even just riling up that base is enough of a reason to get him out of the public eye ASAP.
  
  That’s the same thing a lot of people were saying in 2016.
  About Trump or about Hillary? Because I was saying this about Hillary in 2016 and people were not receptive. She was the worst candidate the Dems could have run.
  
  It's hard to believe that it can work again though, especially since it's exactly the same person. If they put out some Trump like alternative that was subtle enough to trick some "moderate" independents, I could see it working. But everyone knows who Trump is at this point.
- Trump is the best candidate the left could ask for as an opponent in the 2024 election, in the same manor that Hillary was the best candidate the right could as for in 2016.
  Speaking of which...
  How the Hillary Clinton campaign deliberately "elevated" Donald Trump with its "pied piper" strategy
  This was often overlooked by the mainstream media, which instead chose to focus on the e-mails being leaked, instead of what was in them.
  
  It wasn’t just “overlooked” - there was a clear effort to make reading or even acknowledging the validity of the Wikileaks emails taboo. When they were talked about, they were dismissed as Russian propaganda and it was often implied that the contents were probably fake.
  I remember MSNBC pundits and anchors explicitly saying they wouldn’t talk about the contents - just that they were “hacked” and “Russia.” It was bizarre and disturbing.
- We’ll see if we’re signing a different tune once MAGAs start gunning down people waiting in line to vote in blue districts in swing states
- I don't think this is an unpopular opinion tbh.
  I think this is the last gasp for the gop, though. They have to win with trump here and they know it. If he loses he'll be too old next time around and the demographics are already shifting.
  They know he'll run and split the vote if they don't give it to him anyway...
  Tbh I think Hobbes decision was the nail for the gop. Women are angry and men on the fence are now too ...
  
  I think this is the last gasp for the gop, though
  I think this should be the focus of the work of the left right now. We've got a real opportunity to set up a death blow here, and the Democrats also being pieces of shit shouldn't cloud our eyes from making the RNC a dead and buried thing. We can actually take this country to the left if our only remaining opposition is the Democrats.
  
  They have to win with trump here and they know it.
  They cannot win with Convicted Sex Offender Treason Trump and they know it.
  If he loses he'll be too old next time around and the demographics are already shifting.
  They can counteract that for at least 4-8 years simply by getting a better candidate than Convicted Sex Offender Treason Trump.
  They know he'll run and split the vote if they don't give it to him anyway...
  They know they will lose with Loser Trump anyway. If they dumped him they would be in much better shape for 2028. But I think if they had someone besides Loser Trump they would have an actual chance to win in 2024.
Is his mouth open...then the fucking guy is lying.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
WASHINGTON (AP) — With Donald Trump facing felony charges over his attempts to overturn the 2020 election, the former president is flooding the airwaves and his social media platform with distortions, misinformation and unfounded conspiracy theories about his defeat.
There is evidence that his lies are resonating: New polling from The Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research shows that 57% of Republicans believe Democrat Joe Biden was not legitimately elected as president.
An exhaustive AP investigation in 2021 found fewer than 475 instances of confirmed voter fraud across six battleground states — nowhere near the magnitude required to sway the outcome of the presidential election.
Less than three weeks later, then-Attorney General William Barr declared that a Justice Department investigation had not uncovered evidence of the widespread voter fraud that Trump had claimed was at the center of a massive conspiracy to steal the election.
Records of internal communications at Fox News unearthed in the case showed that the network aired the claims even though its biggest stars, including Sean Hannity and Tucker Carlson, as well as the company’s chairman, Rupert Murdoch, did not believe they were true.
Associated Press writers Scott Bauer and Todd Richmond in Madison, Wisconsin; Christina A. Cassidy in Atlanta; Marc Levy in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania; and Ali Swenson in New York contributed to this report.
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Still do t understand why no one will take the streets to his face.

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