Greens keep it short and sweet to avoid the don’t-want-to-knows
Greens keep it short and sweet to avoid the don’t-want-to-knows
The more people find out about the Green party’s policies, the more they tend to switch off. So today’s campaign launch was over in 15 minutes
The more people find out about the Green party’s policies, the more they tend to switch off. So today’s campaign launch was over in 15 minutes
Guardian rolling out the big guns now, to round up any potential stray votes for Starmer.
this week, a quick jibe at the Greens, from everyone’s favourite sideline sniper, Marina Hyde.
Yup, they're really doing all they can to get Starmer to win with articles like Power-drunk and arrogant: if this is how Starmer’s Labour treats its MPs, what will his party be like in power? and I’ve seen Labour stitch-ups in my time. But nothing as shameless as this in the past 2 days.
Yeah because the greens really have a potential in this election don't they and they're just going to fail thanks to this article. What political planet do you live on?
The greens actually do have quite a lot of things to worthy of criticizing, and I think they should be criticized, if only so they stop doing those things and start being more sensible, and then maybe they would be actually a viable political party one day.
They haven't exactly covered themselves in roses lately have they?
Green policies really don't make sense. You have Green councillors opposing wind farms.
I think it was said best on JOE politics, one of the guys was saying that they are basically "militant nimbyists". They're all in favor of wind turbines just not anywhere near where they can see them. And since they're quite big they're basically against them everywhere.
I live near wind farm and they're going to expand it five times the size, there was somebody going around the other day saying they were against it and collecting names for a petition, and I just don't care. They look an awful lot better than a coal fire power station would that is certainly true.
Thing with the Greens is that even they say they want a Labour government. But voting Green makes that less likely. So. What are they doing?
People who vote green know they won't win an election, but do so anyway to pressure the larger parties to do more about climate change. The Greens themselves achnowledge this.
However, the pressure won't have much effect until they start actually taking seats from them. Standing down to give Labour a clear shot would destroy their steady gain in momentum and spoil the best chance they've ever had to get more seats.
Which would make perfect sense if there was some way of adding '... but don't count my vote if it makes electing the Labour candidate less likely' to your ballot. As it is, the effect of voting Green is to make a Labour government, and therefore any effective action on climate change, less likely. So, your real choice is: A Labour government, that does something (even if it's less than you'd like) or voting Green and handing government back to the Tories, and getting nothing (which is definitely less than you'd like).
And right now, when Labour are promising to decarbonise the grid by 2030, which may well be impossible, it's especially absurd to insist they do 'more'. 'More' than borderline impossible?
I want a hung parliament. If you've seen how Kier treats anyone who disagrees with him in his own party, you'd be wise to not let him have a significant control over the state apparatus. Labour has virtually won. More green and Lib Dem seats would be a great thing.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Anyway, the launch featured some of the things you might expect – knitted green rosettes, a lot of jolly good points about sewage – and some you mightn’t.
Denyer finished the stereo-leader speech by declaring their main priorities were “the NHS, housing, climate and nature, public services, and the quality of our water.” Confusingly, three minutes later we were filing out and activists were being given great boxes of campaign material to distribute: all containing a leaflet emblazoned with the Palestinian flag and the words: “An important letter to Bristol on Gaza.”
A poll this week found the Greens had overtaken the Conservatives among the under-50s, who probably don’t want to find out the thing about the houses and the solar farms.
But would you mind pretending you didn’t just say the thing about disbanding the entire British army and getting people to sign up to a “home defence force” (a 2015 classic, there).
In fairness, the party has a difficult coalition to hold together, ranging from traditional eco types, disaffected members of the hard left, disaffected members of the medium left, people who can’t face the Lib Dems, generic protesters who feel their pet issue is not sufficiently foregrounded by the other parties, and that large but underacknowledged demographic – people who think they possibly voted Green at some point in one of the 257 elections between 2015 and 2019 but can’t quite remember when, and in some cases why, now.
The launch was opened by Caroline Lucas, the outgoing Brighton Pavilion MP who is so well liked even among her party’s detractors that it’s fair to say you could safely know 100% of the things about her.
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