Why is the government targeting incels?
Why is the government targeting incels?
You may have heard of the “Countering Violent Extremism” program under DHS.
They’ve deployed the tactics used to fight terrorists against domestic citizens. For example, incels. When I posted on the web forum incels dot is, I didn’t know it was Department of Homeland Security operation against men who say they are romantically deprived. I didn’t know I was interacting with larping feds who encourage extremist rhetoric. Consequently I was put on a watchlist and am subject to intrusive monitoring.
I share a lot of my experience here.
https://twitter.com/WrongedIncel
My question is, is it far that the government is so targeting incels?
Blaming others for all your problems is a strong risk factor for doing violence to others. Grow up, get a fucking grip, and you'll be fine.
but incels.is = dhs
So the fuck what? You're dangerous. You need help. But that help comes with measures to protect other people from you. Whatever anyone might think of their tactics, they can't just do nothing. You're doing this to yourself. Accept whatever help is on offer to climb out of that miserable, bitter, little hole.
Have you LOOKED at the recent shooters?
https://www.npr.org/2023/08/26/1196195934/jacksonville-florida-dollar-store-shooting
White male, early 20s, lives with mom and dad, writing manifestos... Why SHOULDN'T the authorities be looking at incels?
that's a recipe for civil liberties violations
I lived by myself until feds harassed me from my secure job (back in early 2022) and then started subjecting me to sleep deprivation this year.
Get help man
I need sincere help in spreading the fact that incels.is -- and their network of related forums -- are run by DHS.
Thoughts and prayers!
- a trans person
Yikes dude
yikes indeed. that it has come to silencing incels and repressing enough -- and that incels.is = dhs -- is very much a yikes.
edit: added archive link
They target a lot of groups.
They target "lone-actors", most likely due to asocial behavior and more extreme view points.
what's so extreme about the emergent polygyny hypothesis which I enthusiastically endorse? that's just going after people for their 1st amendment rights. also the larping feds at that dhs run website themselves encourage extremist rhetoric
It’s not fair for the government to target anyone who hasn’t broken the law.
I think it's a little fair to monitor groups that border on the edge of committing crimes to make sure they don't. If someone is going around saying they're going to kill people, even if they haven't, I'd keep a fucking eye on them.
Considering how much rhetoric incels and well known terrorist groups share, it doesn't seem unreasonable why they are included on terrorist watch lists.
Let's not forget the mass killings perpetrated by and celebrated by incels. They are an extremist group and should be monitored as such.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jun/13/toronto-van-murders-court-victim-2018-attack
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-43892189
https://abcnews.go.com/US/ohio-incel-pleads-guilty-plotting-mass-shooting-women/story?id=91388041
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/incel-threat-secret-service-report/
Yeah, the FBI has caught bombers by monitoring them before the bombers were able to break the law.
Secretely surveiled them right up until they dropped the duffel bag on the sidewalk.
My memory isn't great right now, but I think I recall reading somewhere that they catch over a hundred would-be bombers a year.
what does monitoring entail? it's one thing if the person is unaware of it but they also let the person know. that's putting them in prison without trial. also that incels = violent is charged up rhetoric meant to invalidate their perspective.
I haven't said I was going to kill people.
they essentially put people in an open air prison (subject to intrusive monitoring) for merely sharing a perspective deemed objectionable by elites who think that perspective becoming commonplace isn't in their interest.