1y ago

The Biden Campaign Has a Trump-Fatigue Problem

Joe Biden’s campaign is facing a strategic dilemma. Since the president’s job-approval ratings have been consistently low, his path to reelection depends on making 2024 a comparative choice between himself and Donald Trump, his scary, extremist predecessor. That task is becoming more urgent as evidence emerges that a sizable number of voters either don’t remember or misremember the four turbulent years of the Trump administration. But paradoxically, educating voters about the potential consequences of a Biden defeat could annoy and alienate them by pushing Trump fatigue to new heights.

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People haven't forgotten. That's not the issue Biden is facing.
- One, fatigue isn't about forgetting, it's about not caring. Second, more than one problem can exist at once.
  
  "Trump fatigue" is not why Biden will lose if he does. He has alienated the people who care the most. That is his singular failure in all of this that will cost him his win, a product of total hubris.
@mozz@mbin.grits.dev thoughts on this article? I know a lot of people really do have Trump fatigue and no longer pay attention when the news talks about him.
- I read the first little bit. My thoughts are that it would be nice if the article painted this whole issue as a media issue instead of a what-Biden-should-do-better issue. It’s not like they’re wrong in anything they’re saying, but leaving out the WHY aspect of how the average voter is so badly misinformed, leaving room for the reader to conclude that Biden’s campaign just isn’t doing a good job in an otherwise neutral situation, seems like a notable omission.
  
  Is the Biden campaign doing itself a disservice by mostly running on "but Trump"?
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Don’t we all…
That's absolutely understandable, the weird part is how media and about 50% of voters don't.
It is certainly your right to vote for Trump, yes.
Almost like he should just listen to the voters and also all the fucking scientists and economists if he wants to energize tired voters.
“Stop selling Israel weapons.” “Be more aggressive with climate policy, we’re already late and can’t dilly-dally anymore.” “Oh my god just actually make a fucking effort instead of offering lukewarm responses all the time.”
It’s not hard, and the science backs up the demands.
- Be more aggressive with climate policy, we’re already late and can’t dilly-dally anymore.
  Wellllllllll
  
  Welllllllllll
  Biden took half a trillion dollars’ worth of action on climate change which he funded by taxing Amazon + friends which ticked emissions down to 40% reduction by 2030 which is way too late and nowhere near enough no but he started working on it the instant he got in office and had to do the whole thing twice because Manchin blew up the first much more aggressive one at the last minute so yes we need to do a hell of a lot more but it seems weird to pick out the ONE guy in American government who has achieved ANY level of forward progress and give him and only him criticism about how important is climate change and we can’t possibly elect him especially since the other guy wants to undo even that step and start blowing up the planet even harder which makes me question a little bit whether you REALLY care about climate change or whether your explicit targeting of the one guy who made some progress on it is maybe
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  Just maybe
  Focused and directed in service of an agenda which is maybe
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  Maybe just maybe NOT
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  Aligned with solving climate change
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  Especially given the fact that you seem totally uninterested in conversations about solving climate change which do NOT lead in direct and immediate A->B fashion into not voting for Joe Biden
- "It’s not hard"
  You run for President then hotshot
  
  Yes, hello. I understand you’re giving out Presidental Campaign starter packages?
  I’ll take the Newport parents, Ivy League College, multi-millionare basic bundle. That comes with the limited-time “My Parents donated to most of my future colleagues’ war chests” add-on, right?
  Do I have to upgrade to get rid of the early-to-mid-life scandal?
  
  A genius rebuttal, why didn’t I think of that?
  
  Actually I am running for president. I'm just poor AF so you'll have to use a write in since I'm not really party allegiant or super well known.
  It's not hard.
Biden's campaign has a "complicit in genocide" problem
- Trump won't have that problem because he won't care how complicit he is.
  
  I mean you are correct.
  Trumps voters don't care if he is complicit in a genocide.
  Bidens voters do care if he is complicit in a genocide.
  Its apples and oranges. The two cohorts of voters are looking for different things from their candidates. Its why comparing the two with each others yard-sticks doesn't make sense.
  
  Definitely. Trump's eligibility doesn't depend on people thinking he's a genocidal piece of shit. If anything, it improves his chances.
  Biden doesn't have that luxury, though. Hence why it's a problem.
- How is that a problem for Biden? When Biden criticize aspects of Israeli behavior, and Trump has zero problems supporting Israel no matter what.
  Biden is for sure the lesser evil in this aspect too, where he is probably most criticized by people attempting to make both sides equal, when it's a false equivalence of gigantic proportions.
  
  Yes, he is the lesser evil.
  Some people don't like evil and won't vote for him until he decides to not do that. That's a problem for his eligibility.
  It's a lot easier to convince one guy to chill on doing genocide than convincing a million people that it's ok to do genocide just this time cause it's important and the other guy is worse

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