Power posters of the fediverse, why aren't you posting on Hexbear?

Bc sometimes, y'all white as fuck and I need time away.

This is real I can't argue with this
Very sorry. Id change it if i could.
- This is what they're talking about.
  
  This is a hairs breadth away from "I'd vote for Obama a third time if I could"
- That "would if I could" is an awfully defeatist sentiment, isn't it? Wouldn't you rather think constructively of active steps you can take to improve the situation?
I come here because it's less white than my normal surroundings
Yeah, it's perfectly valid and fair to need some time away from people acting white as fuck sometimes, my soul needs some time away from my body whenever I catch myself acting white as fuck too
- 100% real; sometimes you only catch it in hindsight and just "fuuuuuck..."
  
  Every morning is a process of killing the white man in your head

Marxist hipsters that engage in the “you’re not as leftist as me or you haven’t read as much theory as me so your opinion is not only going to be brigaded but is also a bannable offense” is what causes me to never post shit on here.

I don't really see this much anymore, which is maybe because everyone is genuinely too afraid of being banned to effortpost, or because the culture has changed such that it doesn't happen anymore. I know it USED to feel like this and that actually did get me to stop posting more than once, so, I don't disagree. Maybe give it another try though, if only because I haven't seen it in a while
- Lots of effort posting in the news mega thread still. For those scared to engage, just best the Marxist hipsters at their own game and post theory. It's what I do lol.
- I am glad that someone sort of hears me. It's still like this as of today and IMO, it will never, ever change as long as there are people moderating this instance who believe that even a slight variation from any one of their beliefs must be resolutely banned or brigaded lest it metasticize and grow into a counter-movement.
Fuckin yep. There's only so many times people are willing to put up with certain cadres being absolute assholes, writing huge debatebro posts about how you're wrong about every detail and wherever you're right you shouldn't say it, and how you're a reactionary anticommunist westoid before it just isn't worth it anymore.

People who have the "correct position" have a lot of license to behave poorly here, and it sucks.

This isn't even to touch on the feeding frenzy when someone whose home instance isn't here isn't exceptionally careful with everything they say.
- People who have the "correct position" have a lot of license to behave poorly here, and it sucks.
  
  This is a big reason why I don't post a lot of responses to some positions I disagree with. Even though I only mean to be constructive, I don't want to attract that kind of attention nonetheless.
idk about that. For instance, a lot of users like the concept of the "PMC" (Professional Managerial Class) that many well-read Marxists would scoff at. I just like Lemmygrad because I know the communities better. Hexbear feels more like shitposts.
You absolutely nailed it, sorry the thing you hate happening happened to you because you explained how you hate when it happens, that sucks
I haven't read much theory and they still allow me to post once in a while, as a treat.

I hate to say it, but the owlposting scares them away anyways here's a triforce

border-triangle-up

i am not a hexbear power poster i cannot even triforce

uh, we already went over this on another account. let me pose a question to you:

Redditors of Lemmy, why have you built a cargo cult around a set of forum rules which has produced the most annoying scenarios we've seen in our lives (Reddit)? why haven't you used this as a bridge to the fediverse, and instead become overly involved with pruning your garden?

Reactionaries of lemmy, why do you hate trans people, queer people, non white people, marginalized people, oppressed people, and all people who aren't white straight wealthy men? This is why Hexbear has defederated from all over the place, because most of the fediverse is incredibly hostile to anyone who isn't a white straight wealthy man. And no, "just sharing ideas" and "freedom of peach" and "it's the internet just don't read posts you don't like" and "censorship pushes people away" and whatever else anyone might say in defense of the rest of the fediverse are not valid excuses for harboring literal hate speech. Stop using slurs, stop rabidly defending racism and oppressive institutions, and maybe folks like you won't get banned. It's not a cargo cult, it's literally just providing basic human decency.
- you have no idea how gay we are on mastodon and its forks. this place is practically straight to me now. there are loads of gay people to connect with on the fediverse
- Why do you assume I'm from the rest of Lemmy when I'm trashing it as training wheels for redditors 💀💀💀💀💀
Honestly, I've always hated the twitter/microblogging format; and would go back to phpBB if it was feasible or populated in this day and age, but unfortunately, I have to make do with what the masses have elected as "the new format".
- I am literally translating chinese posts with one click, this is posting heaven. Hexbear can be a little fun sometimes but it's just goofiness, dooming, or aggregation. It feels like there's something actually happening there. Half the time I translate chinese and it works PERFECTLY now (maybe the guy hosting me is using deepl pro or something else idk) I just learned way more than i knew there was to learn about the discovery that tea poured into milk turns out differently than milk into tea
- Well maybe I'm an insane person, because it turns out I love it now that te charlimits are exploding from 5,000 to 50,000 lol. What was twitter? SMS style 160? Fuck!!
  
  The point is they're all just timelines of posts with replies. No idea why you guys want to click on next page and expand post hundreds of times when you could literally have auto scroll auto refresh and 6 parallel timelines. It's like TweetDeck but free.
  
  Misskey forks are getting into actually usable territory, I would try that before you write off the whole software and posting format. Go look at how the Japanese people on there post, it's insane. Coming back here is like seeing American infrastructure after traveling, complete with people arguing with you about why it should be that way. That being said someone on https://tech.lgbt/ just exposed how bad Msky's code for defederation is lmaooo
  
  Also good to point out the libs technically have us in our containment zone and the creation of mutual containment zones is one of the features of federation. 🤠 But Mastodon and Threads definitely are chonkier. We are creating a network of thousands of websites with hundreds, thousands, tens, even hundreds lf thousands of non-bot non-alt active users, where people are free to speak the truth. I'm not super good at figuring out digital activism strategies anyways, I am a better organizer imho. I am fine at creating online analysis spaces but that's not a proliferating thing. It's a place I work on reading guides and articles with friends.
  
  I'm not saying every space should be about letting everone in, I'm saying there are places on microblogging instances that would play well with you all. There are also blahaj-zone type weirdos to be fair but seems like a minority to me.
  
  I think Hexbear would be fine if it kept the same hyper-restrictive federation but incorporated microblog posts. Not in the terrible way KBIN/MBIN does. Also their userbases are all lemmy.world-core as hell
- also I must add you might hate it but it's the only activitypub platform that actually caters to disabled people jnstead of just paying lip service, with alt text and accessibility features rather than adding extra clicking to receive new posts because taking that away would be "too online"

Infrequent poster, but if we're complaining about Hexbear culture is that there are often leaks in personalities here - I among the guilty - that treat socialism, writers, and world events as avenues for self-actualization that put me off.

The socialister-than-thou posts, for its own sake and not when dunking on reactionaries, I mean.

Yes, folks who base their entire personality on one specific brand of socialism based on one book written in 1993 by someone nobody has ever heard of but is apparently THE MOST IMPORTANT SOCIALIST WRITER IN HISTORY are problematic and need to stop
- Really? The website just seems like a fanclub for the standard figures of western marxism and then capitalist realism etcetera. You see this same group of french philosophers promoted in almost every western left space from tumblr to twitter to group chats like tg/discord
  
  Is there anything you're thinking of in particular there?
- Tagline about the guy who burned a post office in Vietnam
I agree with this take. I've heard from some online commentators that this is a trend that affects social media in general and considerably inhibits collaboration on any project, including leftists trying to discuss building socialism in the current political landscape. Leftists in general should develop a strategy to deal with this phenomenon.

I actually switched instances so I can interact with you lot. You guys have your own culture that's hard to really penetrate when someone isn't one of you.

I chime in when I have something to add or on one of the subjects we agree on, but I'll always feel like I'm walking on eggshells, or, well, I feel like an outsider anyway.

I think the feeling like an outsider thing is pretty normal for any group though. You can just keep posting and commenting and eventually you'll either figure out the parts of the site culture you enjoy and lean into those, or create your own place within it that others enjoy too. This just sounds like normal community experience stuff to me.
- I think what really does the best job of explaining why this place is forbidding is the attempts to point out the reasons are met with flat out denials. it's like you've used this thread to reassure yourself that there are no disconcerting answers to your OP question
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- Getting banned on main is amateur shit you use alts to figure out what the real rules are. Nobody has ever actually enforced their espoused netiquette. The culture here is as toxic as SomethingAwful
- I'm generally pretty good about not going too far, but who knows.

I already get accused of being a hexbear alt, I even got banned from one comm for being an a secret hexbear and that always made me feel weird about posting here.

That's kinda weird tbh and I'm sorry that happened
- Thanks! It was so weird it felt like I did a thoughtcrime or something
- I was scrolling through and on reread realized it sounded like I got banned from a comm here, it was a comm on slrpnk.net
I even got banned from one comm for being an a secret hexbear

gang gang gang

I will add that this experience of having people accuse you of being reactionary for no reason and then getting no response is probably a big driver for "power posters" not wanting to come here but I'd like to add belatedly that it's simply how few posts you actually see on here. It's just like, infosec, lemmygrad which is the same, lemmy, not rly much to see

And then you run the risk of people getting extremely confrontational out of nowhere and deciding you're a fascist because they only see Lemmy posts and their context has become reddit... idk what is an appeal of posting here?

can you name any reason why power posters SHOULD eschew the benefits of better software and wider community?

Honestly, I don't really relate to most of the things people are bringing up in this thread.