Winamp is going open source, and it feels like the early 2000s again
Winamp is going open source, and it feels like the early 2000s again
Don't think of it as beating a dead horse, think of it as whipping the llama's ass once more.
This is bullshit.
Until I see an OSI approved license, it's not open source.
I am so sick of these rubbish licensing efforts calling themselves Open Souce. Fair code is a new atrocity.
There is no repository link. There is no open source code.
Even CLA + GPL/MIT would suffice
I disagree.
CLA gives them total ownership of the code (all contributors are surrendering their copyright), and allows them to change license at any point in time, including making it closed source.
If you're contributing code to a project with CLA you're not contributing to Open Source, you're working for a company for free.
https://about.winamp.com/press/article/winamp-open-source-code This page says they aren't actually making the code open source until September 24, 2024, a date that has not happened yet...
Source-available ≠ open source
What's the licence? It doesn't sound like "open source" and sounds more like "source available".
BSA
Bullshit Source Available
This line gives me some hope that it will actually be open-source:
Winamp will remain the owner of the software and will decide on the innovations made in the official version.
Would they really bother to specify "official version" if it was only source-available and forks weren't allowed?
In the official announcement, they have very carefully and deliberately avoided the term "open source".
"Open source" has a very specific meaning, and probably the key part for this is if there are any restrictions on what you do with any derivative software you create.
Can you use the Winamp source code to create a new media player and sell it? If there is say a restriction on if you can use it in a company or on if you can sell it, then it's not "open source" even though you can publish noncommercial software based on it.
"Hey Internet, come do development on our product for free so we can monetize it. TIA"
I went to the mall today and it felt like the early 2000s again
Look I know it is barely on topic but that shit was so wild I had to
The sad thing about this is that 90% of the skins available for WinAmp since then are gone. You can't find them to download them anymore.
There is Winamp skin museum - https://skins.webamp.org/
Oh, my trusty old Wolfplayer is on there too. Brings me back…
I wish foobar2000 was open source too. Maybe this will encourage the creator to do so.
Agree, also I never encountered other software so flexible in user interface. Every feature can be placed with panels everywhere to your own liking. The whole app interface is like a canvas. Took me a while to get the hang of it but after that ...
Wished other apps were this flexible.
The main reason I like Winamp: Advance Visualization Studio. And skins. Bring back skins in applications. I don't care if 99% are ugly and unusable. We don't need jerks like Gnome team deciding what everything should look like.
Bring back skins in applications.
I love the Cristal Disk Mark / Info applications for this. Some cool Japanese guy, going by hiyohiyo, develops them as free software. And he is not afraid to make editions decorated with presumably his favourite Anime girls
Oh man, my whole desktop experience used to be themed. I would spend hours finding the perfect skins.
Now we just need open source directx and direct draw so all the visualizations work and we’re in business.
Mesa + DXVK/WineD3D/VKD3D/Gallium-Nine.
This really whips the llamas ass.
It really whips the llama's ass.
-RIP Wesley Willis
It really did.
Why did they wait so long
They just want to get profit from the purchase but they are no longer competitive.
Looks like they are looking for suckers to contribute to their code base for free without even making it actually open source.
IMO at this point WinAmp does not offer anything beyond name recognition and nostalgia. Isn't qmmp essentially an open source version of WinAmp?
IMO at this point WinAmp does not offer anything beyond name recognition and nostalgia. Isn't qmmp essentially an open source version of WinAmp?
Even as nostalgia, I just tried out loading a winamp skin from the winamp skin museum someone linked further up with qmmp and it handles that just fine too. So I'll be just using that going forward.
I hope they get all the skins working, and it becomes popular on Linux.
The lammas ass gets whipped again
What does this mean for WACUP ?
I wonder what the aim is. Trying to get relevant again? I haven't used Winamp in many many years. I'm a Spotify / YouTube kind of guy now. I drank the koolaid. It's a little late and things like VLC have a pretty solid offering now, without all gotchas that this will have (such as you apparently can't call it Winamp and will have to sign away a sacrificial child to actually get the code)
VLC is a video player. While it of course can play audio files, it is not intended for managing a library of them like winamp. I do agree that they've missed the boat though. I still buy CD's and actually have a digital library of music that I own. As such, I never stopped using winamp. But I don't know a single other person in real life that doesn't just use a streaming service for their music.
But I have already switched to AIMP
And it's good.
I thought the source was already leaked a while ago
Haha no way! At this point I can't think of a reason to switch from VLC, but I'd love to see a Winamp renaissance.
I miss Wesley Willis.
Fix Shoutcast damn it.
Been using Foobar2000 since '03 (and now on mobile too). No need to change back.
I've used so many other FOSS solutions to replace winamp at this point, and they're all functionally the same. I remember liking the interface of Clementine at some point, but honestly I don't think I have any loyalty to any specific music software anymore.
While I wouldn't mind it if it's worth the time, I recently played around with Audacious with skins and found a skin that made it look exactly like winamp. I can't move jt around in KDE Plasma 5 in Wayland, but it does work well in Enlightenment 0.26 on X11.