Women of Lemmy Can a Guy be too muscular to be attractive?
I was talking to a female friend and young Arnold Schwarzenegger came up on conversation. I pulled up a picture of him and spent a long time looking at it. Then said "I am trying to decide if he is attractive.
I know for me women who are fit and toned, attractive. Once a woman is muscular, attractive falls off a cliff. Probably because they start looking like a man.
The kind of hypermuscularity that body builders have looks unattractive on any gender imo and not just aesthetically. It also is a clear message that they will not eat taco bell and watch Pokemon reruns at 2 AM with me.
No, not attractive. That's a man who spends a LOT of time in the gym, looking at himself in the mirror. He eats and drinks weird stuff and possibly is on drugs that make him angry. Not my cup of tea.
I think they meant stuff like pre workout mixes and post workout mixes. Hyper processed proteins, BCAAs, Caffiene, Beta Alanine, argenine, creatine, taurine, etc… followed by a chaser of a dozen or so pills like ZMA. Then of course the HGH, T, Sermorelin, Ipamorelin, & CJC-1295.
Aside from the wealthiest, body builders generally destroy their hearts and bodies filling them up with dozens of cheap suspect supplements that don’t have solid lab testing. And they are always pushing new frontiers on shady pseudoscience to get a fresh edge with whatever side effects that has on longevity.
Arnold got out before that part of the scene got super out of control. But even with him, you can see it in the way his forehead and gut shape have changed over time. The very clear signs he’s juiced, just probably under a lot more perfect control from medical professionals due to his wealth.
As a fellow lesbian, there is definitely a cliff, but it’s post karlach. Personally the older I get the more I love a mom bod, but a jocky herbo type? Yeah I’m down. But once you get into bodybuilder levels yeah no. Though as I say this, it’s not the muscle, it’s the contrast of high muscle with low body fat. Because like, yeah powerlifters can get it, but when you start looking like Arnold with tits, nah.
To an extent, both. I wouldn't say I have a strong sense of attraction to begin with, and conversely I'm not outside dating any guy if we grow into each other, but people of his type draw me in even less. If he had a different persona/aura (think Jareth) but retained his physical image, I may be drawn to him, but he is not mismatched with his physical image.
Personally, I do not find men (or women) that are as built as that photo of Arnold attractive. I do like nicely-toned arms though, I am definitely an "arms" chick, as in, I find muscular arms in particular attractive. But there's definitely a point where if the muscles are too big, it starts to be less appealing.
Yes. The amount of time a man spends in the gym to build muscles like that is inversely proportionate to how much time he has available to spend fortifying a relationship with a woman.
Nicely toned is probably ideal. But I prefer skinny than overly muscular like body builders. Tall and skinny or lanky was pretty much my type especially when I was younger. Now my husband has a bit of fat around the belly and I love that too.
Is this a question for straight women only or can a pansexual guy answer? Personally I've a thing for fbb's but with guys it doesn't do anything for me. Turns me right off.
Not a woman, but I am pan and no I don't find this kind of body attractive. In anyone. Normal tone where muscle is obvious, but not the main show so to speak, is the limit for me.
Not attractive at all to me. I don't mind if a guy is toned, but muscular is really unattractive to me. The thing with attraction is that it's individual, and I know some women who would love this look, I tend to like geeky guys, but I have friends who like big guys, bald guys, short guys, skinny guys, attraction is just super individual.
Do not like the Arnold level picture, but I like strong people. From my understanding of muscular & strong people, strength muscles =/= show off muscles, and you can be strong without spending all day at the gym.
Go look up thirst trap woodchopping videos or channels of people really good at whip cracking. The type of natty, muscular physique these people have is great.
Where I'm personally turned off is when people start to use steroids to go beyond how bodies look when they're natty jacked because of an active hobby or job (talking about the look---it's ok to get muscles at the gym instead.).
Fwiw, I'm strictly talking about muscles here, regardless of fat. If built, construction homies have a lean look or if they are a teddy bear, it's all cool with me.
Even though we generalize that we’re attracted to categories like men and women I think most people are only attracted to a handful of singular people rather than a whole gender (or a more muscled or less muscled subset of one).
I like fit guys, anywhere from skinny and wiry lean to strong and somewhat padded.
Bodybuilder not so much but those guys don't look like competition pictures when they are just walking around in the world. Yes of course there is a limit to what I find attractive but I do admire the physiques even of those I think too big.
I think my subconscious interprets fit as likely to survive and active enough to want to do things, but super fit as self-centered or obsessive.
I'm not agreeing with him at all but that's a strange jump to take.
I'd say that secondary sexual characteristics in women tend to involve body fat. Being in extremely good shape does affect that a little bit - breasts, hips, face, ass, - and some would see that as looking more masculine where I'd say they're just extremely fit.
Second believe it or not it's actually okay to not find certain physical or mental attributes attractive. Attractiveness of others differs for everyone. It isn't okay to then be mean or disrespectful to those you are not attracted to.
Weirdly enough if you read my post I didn't say muscular women were bad, I never said they should not be muscular and I definitely did not say women should hide their muscles.
If you read my comments, you’d see that I said everyone is free to be attracted to whatever and whoever they wish, but saying that women look like men when they have muscles is incredibly sexist.
Maybe phrase things differently if you want to be understood better.
I understand what OP means. He (?) is saying that when a woman starts to have bulging muscles, a la the bodybuilder look, it isn't attractive, because their body looks more masculine and less feminine.
I feel the same way, I love the look of a toned, athletic woman, like the typical yoga or volleyball/tennis body, but when they start having visible definition and bulging muscles it don't find it attractive.
I'm a dude as well, as to OP's question, I've also heard that some women prefer the dad bod to the Arnold look because muscles aren't soft to lay on.
The most muscular women on earth had to take steroids to get there. The most muscular people on earth who don't take steroids are men (not saying no men take them; don't put words in people's mouths). So, I could see that line of thinking, but it's a needlessly prescriptive way of phrasing it.