[serious] If Project 2025 becomes a reality. Would you fight in a civil war?

In case people don't know what Project 2025 is.

Here's the document:

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/24088042-project-2025s-mandate-for-leadership-the-conservative-promise

AT LEAST READ THE FOREWARD. It very meticulously lays out their 4 goals:

1. Restore the family as the centerpiece of American life and protect our children.

2. Dismantle the administrative state and return self-governance to the American people.

3. Defend our nation’s sovereignty, borders, and bounty against global threats.

4. Secure our God-given individual rights to live freely—what our Constitution calls “the Blessings of Liberty

In plain language they want to:

1. Effectively make LGBTQ+ persons illegal, unable to marry, adopt, or even exist openly, nationally ban abortion, ban education about black history and systemic racism;
2. hamstring or eliminate a bunch of government agencies like the Department of Education, the EPA, the DOJ, Department of Homeland Security, and to eliminate many positions within the federal government or install loyal puppets;
3. close our borders completely, pull out of NATO and the UN, invest heavily in oil, coal, and natural gas while divesting in renewable energy and removing environmental regulations, and exert extreme control over tech companies and universities;
4. create school voucher programs which very much are to allow parents to segregate their children and use tax dollars to fund conservative, religious, private schools at k-12 levels, and eliminate social welfare programs. Also includes the contradiction of "champion the dynamic genius of free enterprise" and "include antitrust enforcement against corporate monopolies."

The whole thing is full of conservative buzz words, "anti-woke" rhetoric, and contradictions about free enterprise while wanting to exert control over people and "big tech."

But it's also dangerous because they're going to attempt to consolidate power to the next Republican president. There are complicated and far-reaching consequences to the things they're proposing that would take an academic paper to get into. For example, Ron DeSantis just signed a bill making lab-grown meat illegal because of the "global elite." It doesn't make any sense, but it's part of the reactionary, anti-leftist, culture war bullshit the Republicans are on right now.

That summary should be enough to show why this is so dangerous.

What's with the Republicans, don't they like their country and democracy any more?

Before the civil war southerners talked shit about northerners as too comfortable and effete to fight. We know how that worked out. All fascists are bound to lose eventually. The question is how much pain and death will they cause before being suppressed.

I'm old and out of shape, so I'm not the ideal soldier, but if the conservatives push that shit and there's an organized resistance by sane, compassionate people who care about people, I'd try to do my part with them.

Maybe on the weekends. I work during the week. Depends on if I could get flexible scheduling and HQ had Wi-Fi.

No, I'm gonna sit back and laugh as a bunch of guys who couldn't schedule a meeting at the four seasons try to overthrow the world's oldest democracy.

I'm honestly getting the fuck while I can if he gets elected.

Physically? I couldn't do it, not anymore. Too many health conditions.

But anyone bringing trouble to my street or doorstep, is going to have a bad day.

I can only do so much due to disabilities, but I would support all resistance to a fascist Nazi takeover

Sure. I have a lot of issues with the US but if fascists overthrow the constitutional order every American has a moral obligation to restore the rule of law.

Nice try, glowie!

I'm chronically ill, while I would certainly help in a capacity which avoids direct combat situations; I still would help those on the left combat the fascist Republicans!

Don’t openly agree to commit crimes on the internet

If trumps presidential immunity rule happens, Biden should delete trump before his term ends.

hmmm, if I live there, I would probably try to move out.

or go to a state where this shenanigan doesn't get acknowledged. not really sure if state laws were meant like that.

maybe this is project 2025 is a multi-tier attack with one layer in the form of fear mongering?

It will mean the experiment failed. I'll go back to Europe where my ancestors came from, in the blink of an eye, and watch with popcorn as this place turns into Christian Iran

Would you fight a civil war?

With who? Against... who? Like, do I just go down to the city center and start swinging punches? Or are we saying there's some kind of mobilized resistance movement that's led by... uh... who, exactly?

Whats that?

Yes

I'm a pacifist, so no, I don't think I could live with myself if I took another person's life, unless it were in self-defense. I would nope the fuck outta the country though, and relinquish citizenship.

No. If the bad man gets re-elected I’m taking off.

If there was a charismatic leader who had a bold and progressive path to taking back our country from these tyrants, then yes.

If it's just some average joe with nothing but ideals and armchair thoughts then I'm not following that guy.

Nope. I might buy a shotgun though.

I don't think it would be very civil TBH

As much as I pretend to be one, I'm not really a fighter. I think this war may not need me to be one. The time to respond has already begun, and while front-line protests aren't my strong suit, supporting protestors in my community is the place for me right now. If a greater conflict escalates, I'm probably not like doing the active fighting, but I can sure as shit help with supply lines as well as helping people who need to recover in the backlines. If I ever need to be in a fight I intend to be prepared, but there's a lot more to do in a war than fight. And by the time anything like that would happen, I hope to have a resilient community around me who can support each other through hell. The fight's already begun to an extent, and it's important to remember that our best place may be "back-of-house" so to speak.

I do not know what that is, but I would fight in any war to protect my family.

Nope. But I'd start my family in a different country.

I've been wondering this since Trump's policies started fucking with the country.

Doubtful. Too easy for me to leave. My wife holds dual citizenship, my kids are in the process of getting it now, and the country she is from would easily award me an indefinite work visa based on my skillset. Even if I couldn't leave, I won privilege bingo so not really in any danger.

You people have fun murdering each other

No. But i am not from the vsa.