Israel is killing people based on being in the same Whatsapp group
Israel is killing people based on being in the same Whatsapp group
A little-discussed detail in the Lavender AI article is that Israel is killing people based on being in the same Whatsapp group [1] as a suspected militant [2]. Where are they getting this data? Is WhatsApp sharing it? Lavender is Israel's system of "pre-crime" [3] - they use AI to
I'm starting to get the impression that israel is up to no good at all.
It's cool.
America is the big brother shielding them from consequence.
Israel will be just fine.
It is beyond obscene and makes Meta complicit in Israel's killings of "pre-crime" targets and their families, in violation of International Humanitarian Law and Meta's publicly stated commitment to human rights.
I mean if true - and it likely is - then this would be the third genocide Meta is implicated in, by my count, (Rohingya, Tigray) and there may be others they haven't been called out for yet.
Israel aimed to spark a regional conflict to avoid facing genocide allegations. However, Iran didn't buy into their PR tactics.
that's is basically Israel strategy. Don't know on what ground you're getting downvoted.
Israel wants to involve the US into the conflict, to create the perceptive diversion when it moves into Rafah and continue towards their goals. However, Iran took the necessary steps, e.g. informing the US in advance their course of actions, so that the US won't be forced into the conflict.
That's basically what happened. The US keep themselves out, Iran gets to retaliate while keeping a distance from the US, and Israel will be on their own should it moves forward to Rafah.
yeah, Iran being the fucking heroes here. generally fuck that government, but they're the only adults in the extremely apocalyptic room. at least adolescents who know how to babysit?
What group currently calling Jihad against Israel has not openly recieved funding from the Iranian state, going back to 1992?
The answer is none. Every group calling for Jihad and Jewish genocide in the region has received monetary support from Iran.
Why is that?
if the kapostanis stopped saying every Jew is aligned with them, or people stopped listening to them, I'm sure there would be a lot less antisemitism.
the problem is the Zionist genocide orcs. its always the Zionist genocide orcs scrawling 'protocols of the elders og zionc fan art on our maps, then defending themselves from the things they're doing from the boom they're using as a checklist by saying we're just accusing them because its in an old dumb czarist book. which they're using as a checklist.
This is why metadata matters so much. Plenty of "end-to-end encrypted" apps only handle the content of messages, but know on the server side what people are in what places. Or even keep a historical record of who joined and left. Or just don't bother encrypting...
There is functionally no way to hide this kind of information from a state actor short of some onion routing scheme mesh networking.
Signal does a decent job just out of the box.
I'm surprised Israel is that discerning.
From what I can tell, they're killing people based on those people being inside the borders of Gaza.
I don't think those 13,000+ children were all using Whatsapp. The ones that couldn't read or write probably didn't find it especially useful.
I just assumed Israel was killing people based on those people's proximity to exploding israeli ordnance
no, no, they use ai to optimize for kill count.
well yes but you could create accounts for them after they died, and use a dead Hezbollah guys phone to invite them to whatsapp group. or just any phone. whichever.
you know, to be sure they were enemy combatants.
The only time they recognise those borders is when the command the war crimes units to enter.
I think they recognize them every time they want to stop a Palestinian from leaving.
Signal is the way
Then they could just go off phone numbers.
Signal just introduced a new feature to obscure phone numbers behind usernames
That's a lot of speculation. I'd like to learn the truth.
The +972 article clearly mentioned Lavender using "being in WhatsApp groups" as a variable to designate targets.
Zuckerberg donating 125K to Zaka (the 40 beheaded babies propaganda group) and his other top Meta staff being massive Zionists living in israel is a rather direct link.
Jesus, Zionist propaganda groups are beheading babies? I mean I know they have no shame but that just seems like, I don't know, more work than its worth?
Hmm. I mean it's an article citing another article, citing a book published under a pen name which seems to include a guide which says using WhatsApp groups could be an example of an information source...
Sounds more like Chinese whispers to me than journalism. I'm a bit cautious since everyone has strong opinions and lots of people spread misinformation... The donation certainly is an interesting fact. I'm not saying it's necessarily false. But also not enough to convince me.
fuck Zionist propaganda groups are beheading babies now? that just seems like more work than the shock value is really worth, you know?
What speculation?
I'd prefer we dont claim Israel "uses AI" to execute Palestinians, because that takes a lot of criminal liability away from the soldiers who are pressing the trigger whilst aiming to hit as many civilians in collateral as physically possible.
There's an element of AI involvement but Israel doesnt give away info like this for free. It's being massively overstated whilst actual elements of Israel's surveillance state against Palestinians are being minimised.