The failure state and irrefutable explanation is even built right into it. Did you pray for something and it didn't happen? It's because God didn't will it, it's part of his plan, beyond your comprehension but clearly for the best.
They know that when Jesus made the endless bread and fish (with a meal purchase at Olive Garden) he definitely limited who could get it based on income and passing a drug test.
A middle eastern religious extremist walking through an American public school talking and feeding kids would probably be shot and killed live on national television. Possibly by a student.
“And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full. 6 But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you."
The thing about the bible is that there are some solid parables nestled in there about how to be a halfway decent human being. But then we get prose like this that reek of good intent, but have barn-door sized holes in the grammar thanks in part to being re-translated and edited many times over the centuries. Heck, a new edition dropped just last week.
For example:
Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full.
Oh, so if I act like a hypocrite, I'm good to go? Huh, sounds like Matthew had this one wrong.
I think someone would have to want to read it that way, to interpret it that way.
I mean, I'm not religious myself. However, to me, hes saying they got their reward (being seen praying) and they won't get anymore reward than that. If they prey privately, their God will reward them.
That's not how I interpret that line. I'm pretty sure he means that if you act like a hypocrite, the scorn and derision of the people you are annoying that you get here in life is the only reward you can expect, and no further reward will be gained in the afterlife.
However, if you follow the rules, are a good person, and most importantly don't go around boasting about how good you are, then you'll receive a greater reward after death, than any earthly reward that us lowly humans could give you.
Both are bloody AF, and not that long ago. Neither are simply an outlook, and millions throughout history have been murdered in their name.
More to the point, any "higher power" that designates individuals/groups as "good" or "evil" based on its own internal system is exactly what I'm talking about. Anything beyond that is merely classifying it as something closer to a religion with each step toward dictating followers' behavior.
It's like "believe in God and he will provide" fuck that noise, we need action and belief. We need proactiveness. We need people to act not just believe.
FFS, the only person who was only ever able to provide like that in the bible was Jesus. And there was always a prerequisite to it - he had to have something he could multiply - he didn't conjure wine out of nowhere, he needed water to convert. He didn't randomly produce the food for 5000 he needed fish and bread to begin with.
Even in the bible people had to at least do the bare minimum for shit to happen. These guys are withholding even that and saying prayer is the answer. Like it's a cure all, it's not, and it never was.
It's such a stupid thing to say too. I got into an argument with a relative about it recently. By the Bible's own rules, a Christian who tells someone hungry to pray a little harder instead of just feeding them isn't a Christian, and they're damned. This whole "God helps those who help themselves" bootstrap/prosperity Christianity is the worst type of religion.
What good is it, my brothers and sisters, if someone claims to have faith but has no deeds? Can such faith save them? Suppose a brother or a sister is without clothes and daily food. If one of you says to them, “Go in peace; keep warm and well fed,” but does nothing about their physical needs, what good is it? In the same way, faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead.
But someone will say, “You have faith; I have deeds.”
Show me your faith without deeds, and I will show you my faith by my deeds. You believe that there is one God. Good! Even the demons believe that—and shudder.
Even in the bible people had to at least do the bare minimum for shit to happen
Beyond that, there are a lot of good behaviour and principles in there: while some insist on faith alone, it is abundantly clear that the gospel demands action, as there are a plenty of parables for people to listen - they tell you how to behave and how to act in the world - . If you have faith and that brings to actions and good deeds, fine, if you use faith as a trump card (ah, see what I did there), you're doing something wrong. I have read the faith only arguments, but I will strongly disagree with them. If anything the whole point of the gospel is too act and not to be too formal about it. But I am a little skinny ape, I think as one, and apes like action.
Hmmm. A Christian believing something that doesn’t make sense because it’s not* in the Bible?
By any chance, does that belief help them give into their sinful nature and pretend god is cool with it? The usual: laziness, greed, hatred, dishonesty, etc.
Lets all pray to Crom. He never disappoints because he never cares. He already gave you all he's giving you at birth. Plus there's the whole riddle of steel thing
You must know a lot of people in that faith then? Whatever faith that OP is mentioning. Otherwise to say ALL of that specific faith are bad would be a logical fallacy.
Imagine a dichotomy so false that that a peaceful group with an earnestly held spiritual belief is somehow held responsible for a problem that hasn't existed since 1946.
Ah yes, Christianity, a peaceful group. Like when they peacefully did those Crusades or had that peaceful Spanish Inquisition or when they peacefully forcibly converted indigenous people the world over. And let's not forget how they're peacefully calling for the death penalty for queer people in Christian countries like Uganda...
Almost exclusively describing Catholic historical events and many of them in isolation. The Byzantine empire was under constant siege from pagans and Muslims for over a thousand years.
As far as murder of gays in Africa... pinning that on Christians is... ridiculous. Protections for homosexuals in historically Christian countries is far better than the alternatives. You act as if the animists or muslims in Uganda would be totally fine with homosexuality if it wasn't for the oppressive Christians.
I can cherry pick the history of any group to show them in a bad light. I could say atheists killed 26 million in the holodomor or that secular humanists supported eugenics programs that inspired Hitler and started abortion centers to keep the population of undesirables down.
The reality is that human beings commit atrocities under many banners but a cursory look at Christian statements of faith and their actual scriptures will reveal that Christianity is radically peaceful and is the origin of any secular concepts concerning human protections in the Western world.
Read the wikipedia link. Free and subsidized lunch programs have been in place at a Federal level since 1946. They existed at a community level far before that into the 19th century. I can tell you from my own community that there are programs that extend beyond just this program as well when you factor in state-level support and charities.