the_dunk_tank @hexbear.net notceps [he/him] @hexbear.net 8 mo. ago

Lemmy.ml welcome to the tankiezone

lemmy.ml is terribly moderated - how and where do you settle this?

I'm not quite sure how I best encourage this discussion - so I'll ask this here. I am somewhat shocked, how /c/worldnews@lemmy.ml is moderated. Large parts of the instance are in my view in tankie-territory like lemmygrad or hexbear, so much so that I find it borderline unaccaptable.

I question myself, how something like this could have consequences. Feddit has blocked both lemmygrad as well as Hexbear, lemmy.ml is several times larger and in many parts not problematic. Would that instance be blocked users would be unable to access a lot of content.

I ask myself, how do you settle this in the Fediverse, especially when it comes to larger instances. If the admins on feddit find the mods on lemmy.ml problematic, which avenues could they pursue to pressure them without defederating.

Other titles I thought about:

Feddit.de not beating the nazi instance allegations

Lemmy.ml welcome to the resistance

Also the incident that caused this very reasonable and very normal fedditor to get not mad at all

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shoutout to feddit.de for once again proving that g*rmans shouldn't exist
- as a german, i can confirm. most germams suck so bad arggggg
- True, unification under Prussia was a mistake.
  
  they were never intended to be anything other than an absolute mess somewhere in the middle of europe
  
  the alternative was unification under austria, a similarly unhinged state/people...
One condition of ending WW2 should have been the legal right to slap any German in the mouth if they set off a . Rallying the volk against the communist outsiders to defend another genocide? That's a slappin'. They get free speech like a dog that bites gets to walk with a muzzle until they prove they're safe again.
- Rallying the volk against the communist outsiders to defend another genocide?
  
  More than a slappin'
The feddit.de thread on this is, as usual for that cursed instance, fucking gross, has a user named luxuslurch@feddit.de who pulls off shit like calling Jews antisemites for being against zionism, misgenders a user in the process, then calls the user whiny when being called out for the transphobia, then doubles down on that in the most ridiculous, privileged, ignorant manner possible. Hardcore transphobic brainworms at play there, that human dog turd outright refuses to use they / them pronouns in any context.

I'm not gonna make a feddit account to bully this fascist piece of shit, but if anybody has one, please report this fuckhead for repeated transphobia.
- Yeah its an incredibly bad instance but most of it is just shitty bad and I just thought this was more funny bad because guy getting banned to then 4 hours later go and make a post about defeding is funny. As for the transphobia I wouldn't be surprised if the admins there will just hand wring about freedom of speech and shit like that.
  
  guy getting banned to then 4 hours later go and make a post about defeding
  
  Many such cases, though usually it’s under an hour later.
  
  Didn't know it's that bad there, given the content posted i had assumed they're at least radlibs. Granted, that doesn't mean much when both the antideutsche and anti-imperialist left in Germany have an entire wing of outspoken transphobes.
- Im taking a break from feddit, a couple weeks ago my comment calling luxuslurch a fascist got deleted for being uncivil
  
  Did he have other topics than zionism and transphobia back then? I've looked at his comment history, but couldn't stand more than a week of it, and hating Palestinians and regularly sprinkling transphobia on top is literally the only thing that loser has posted about.
  
  @Civility@hexbear.net wtf
  
  😤
- Today is a good day to be a monolingual burger.
I get a strong emphasis on fed from many feddit posts
I find it borderline unaccaptable.

ah fuck the mods forgot to ask this guy if their moderation was acceptable to him
- I vote to remove this comment. All votes must be unanimous (no downvotes). All in favor?
  
  See, moderation via democracy is not that hard. Worked for Elon.
- Mods should be asking me if their moderation is acceptable.
German

banned for antisemitism

complains about tankies so I doubt he said something pro-Palestine
- He made some comments saying that Nazis partnered with Zionists is incredibly antisemitic.
  
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haavara_Agreement
  
  its not even some far out conspiracy theory, it actually happened
We should do something about these tankie guys, I'm not saying this because I'm mad that they won't let me be a bigot btw.
- Tankies are taking away my Right To Free (hate) Speech Online! We should take away their right to speak too, only I am allowed to have opinions!
  
  Won’t somebody think of the poor fascists and their right to a printing press?
the whole of west germany should've been thrown in the gulag after the DDR took over, alas, we continue living in our doomed world that we have created
- Nah, just whack enough of their Nazi army corps to reach 6 million (it won't take much more than a million since their military deaths were 5,533,000) in the past and then you would've denazified the damned country....
Someone needs to do a socio-linguistic study on Internet German, because it's the most grating way of writing I can imagine. It sounds like someone talking to a bureaucrat, a police officer and their close friends all at the same time. It's a policy paper crossed with a teenager. "Should the instance be blocked, users would lose access to a great amount of content. And I'm just wondering to myself, how can you solve issues like that?" How can anyone, let alone a whole country, stand this style of text?
- Redditor germans have terminal debatebro. They are unable to engage with anything at face value, to them everything is an abstract talking point.
  
  When your past and present is that fucked, you'd want to deal entirely in the abstract too.
  
  (Takes one to know one )
- I think it's the natural expression of anglophone debatebro culture in a language with a more clearly-defined formal register, but I only know a little German so idk
- How can anyone, let alone a whole country, stand this style of text?
  
  We don't, dunking on each other for minor differences and shit like that is our tradition.
I am confused as to why they are even bothered about this. Aren't there already instanxes like .world and lemm.ee which alongside being pretty big are cracker safe spaces as well? lemmy.ml has even stopped accepting registrations a while ago.
- It makes them uncomfortable that somewhere there are tankies talking menacingly.
- For these people the whole world must be a cracker safe space
- I think lemmy.ml has been accepting registrations continuously for at least the last 10 months.
redditors dont know how the internet works do they
- Remember, citizen: a dead internet is a safe internet
- go back to being a dev instance
  
  .ml is short for Machine Learning, right guys? Right??
- spoiler
  
  How many people tried to click Illecors or the Lemmy.ml?
you find it unacceptable? well then, log off
Liberals will go to great lengths in demonizing anything communist while excusing their side from just about everything.
Deutschland uber alles fascists
ACK, DAS MATERIALISTS! MODS HEP
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willkommen auf der Tanke-Territorium
- i don't speak german
  
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Ich finde das Argument einfach komplett Absurd.

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