"You should lose your rights to vote & bear arms if you're terminated for cause."
"You should lose your rights to vote & bear arms if you're terminated for cause."
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I firmly believe that being terminated for cause or marked "ineligible for rehire" should carry lifelong consequences, regardless of the circumstances, and be treated as a felony (just as a dishonorable discharge from the US military is felony-equivalent). Being fired for cause is a serious matter that should not be taken lightly, and it should serve as a permanent mark on one's record. Here's why I believe this:
Permanent Mark on Record: Being fired for cause or marked as "ineligible for rehire" should follow you for the rest of your life and be treated the same as a felony conviction. This is a serious consequence that should make individuals think twice before engaging in misconduct or inappropriate behavior in the workplace.
No Excuses for Misconduct: Regardless of whether you feel your supervisor targeted you or if you believe there were mitigating circumstances, being fired for cause is shameful and should be treated as such. Excuses do not change the fact that serious misconduct occurred. The ONLY exception here is if you were laid off for purely financial reasons, in which case that's not a "for-cause" termination & you'd likely be eligible for rehire.
Equal Consequences for All: Just like how a dishonorable discharge in the military is equivalent to a felony, being terminated for cause should have serious, lifelong consequences. This applies to all forms of misconduct, including but not limited to sexual harassment.
Public Registry: Those who are terminated for cause or marked as "ineligible for rehire" should be placed on a publicly-accessible registry, similar to how the sex offender registry currently operates. This information can be used by prospective employers, friends, and family to make informed decisions about associating with the individual.
Loss of Rights: Individuals who are terminated for cause should lose their right to vote and bear arms, similar to the consequences of a felony conviction. They should also lose the right to both Federal and private employment, as well as recourse to any form of welfare or charity.
As only the opinion of the employer matters here, there would be absolutely no right of appeal for these consequences once the employee has lost their job, no matter the circumstances.
By implementing these consequences, we can ensure that individuals think twice before engaging in misconduct in the workplace and that those who do face appropriate lifelong consequences for their actions. During the pandemic, people have forgotten how to treat their employers with respect; this is one way we could fix that.
Its a new account so maybe a troll? But they have left a bunch of non troll comments so 
shitload of comments from their post history (went overboard oops)
Quitting before about 3-5 years is unethical. Hiring is outrageously expensive and they haven't even gotten a positive ROI out of you yet.
Realistically in the first 6-12 months you shouldn't be taking any time off at all, no matter the reason.
Be grateful they gifted you the opportunity to interview at all.
Taking the job is understandable. Continuing to look is unethical. It's understandable in this permanently horrific job market why OP would accept the job, but that comes with the expectation OP ceases their search and commits long-term to this job.
r/ChoosingBeggars. Min wage is new normal for most jobs.
There's also a little bit of, you lost your job, you kinda have a debt to society to repay.
"What do I tell interviewers in the future when asked about this position?" The honest truth. Your boss didn't like you, so you were fired for cause.
A job is MORE than a marriage actually. You're spending more time with your job than your SO usually (unless you count sleep time... waking hours most definitely). Your job is paying all your living expenses. So yeah, it's deeper than a marriage.
Work's supposed to suck.
Quitting an internship is super shitty, paid or not.
Can't speak for UK but under US social norms, the leaving on short notice/before 3-5 years on the job would get you for sure blacklisted from that company for life, and likely from any other company too.
That is incredibly, horrendously unethical that you broke your commitment to not one, but two companies within ~3 months. People like you are why we need central, public do-not-hire registries.
Unpopular opinion but if an employer gives you the gift of a job in this economy, you absolutely owe them your undying loyalty and gratitude. This is the worst job market ever, perhaps worse than 1929, and it will never get better. If you've been with a company under 5 years, there is almost never a reason you should even be entertaining the idea of an interview with another company. If a recruiter reaches out you should pull the proverbial "sorry I have a boyfriend" card.
Honestly kinda leaning towards this being an actual techbro bootlicker,
Lol there's nothing about a dishonorable discharge that's similar to having a felony tied to your name. You can still vote and get a job pretty easily with a dishonorable discharge.
So I agree with your techbro assessment. People like that always pretend they know something about the military, but they never do.
Thank you for that context, I didn't know how factual the dishonorable discharge stuff was.
They are correct in the sense that a dishonorable discharge is related to a conviction for felony-level offenses after a court martial. Any voting restriction would depend on the state and would be related to the criminal charges that led to the discharge rather than the discharge itself. The wrong discharge destroying your life forever is a big boogeyman for lower enlisted, I wouldn’t be surprised if they were a vet of some sort.
They neglect the trial, or that even a dishonorable discharge can be appealed or potentially upgraded, or that the military “fired for cause” is not dishonorable discharge. Dishonorable discharge is extremely rare.
Court Marshall is not the only way to get a dishonorable discharge. If you get court marshalled and found guilty of a felony, then you're troubles would come from the felony charge. Not the dishonorable discharge.
I was enlisted, and court marshall is not used as a bogeyman. Court marshall is just the military's version of a trial with a grand jury. You only go to it for serious military offenses or if you break a civilian law and they defer you to the military's justice system. It's not used as a threat anymore than the American court system is.
Can't own firearms
This dude has the most distilled privilege energy of all time. Could be a troll, but there are crackers that unironically think shit like this.
I didn’t read but 5 words of it because… whew… but the general message screams big mad small business owner that’s mad he couldn’t do more than fire someone who slighted him
Small business owners, and I have known many, personally and professionally, will literally explode if they go more than 5 minutes without shitting on their employees and complaining about how selfish they are, how they just come in to work for pay and take advantage of you. Every one of these fucks would pay their employees less if they could, they know there is a power imbalance, and yet they are convinced their minimum wage employees are conspiring against them.
It's so frustrating! Even people who don't benefit will complain about people "not being loyal" to the company, as if they care about workers at all.
no way this is a techbro unless it's a techbro CEO. a techbro worker is a bootlicker but they recognize that the only way to get a raise is to change jobs so they have no loyalty. I'm gonna guess this person is a demonic back office middle manager at some 100 person company based out of a business park in the outskirts of Wichita.
In their post history they talk about working in IT/post in the sysadmin sub.
This might be a one of a kind special edition techbro, because I agree most of them know how job hopping works.
Based on the infantile, dogmatic posts about something so trivial, my hunch is a young adult child of small business tyrant parents. Like they've clearly internalized mom and dad whining about how no one wants to work anymore, and they don't have enough firsthand experience to understand the world doesn't work the way their parents have told them it does.
If they ever worked in IT, it was some nepo internship for mom and pop's MSP tech support company.
In particular this gem:
leaving on short notice/before 3-5 years on the job would get you for sure blacklisted from that company for life, and likely from any other company too.
Like that's laughably false.
This person just wants regular citizens to turn into slaves and illegals if they misbehave
Treat employers with respect? Oh you mean the dogshits that just look at those who do the actual work of making profits as a number on a spreadsheet? Get fucked. The
is too good for this shitlord.whether it's a troll or otherwise, any person that spent the time typing out that monstrosity cannot be happy.
Loss of Rights: Individuals who are terminated for cause should lose their right to vote and bear arms, similar to the consequences of a felony conviction. They should also lose the right to both Federal and private employment, as well as recourse to any form of welfare or charity.
As only the opinion of the employer matters here, there would be absolutely no right of appeal for these consequences once the employee has lost their job, no matter the circumstances.
Literally just a death sentence.
That's why it's an encouragement to kill every single employer who attempts this. Really, it's an invitation to exploit the weakness of their flesh in order to make a better world. There is not curing someone who legitimately believes things like this.
In the world this person dreams of, I would kill my employer before just taking being put on a no-hire list. Same consequences, but I get food and housing. Does techbro really want to be killed because he fired someone over not taking out the trash?
Better yet, someone would report them for being terminated for cause therefore disenfranchising them. They literally stated they should not be allowed to appeal, they'd be fucked.
This looks LLM generated to be honest
And I think I should be able to take a spiked bat to this guys head
God, it's like they read about bringing democracy into the workplace and went completely jokerfied.
His fundamental belief that employers have the right to profit off of employees is wild. It almost reads as satire against the "job creator" narrative.
Cool, let's give felons a REAL reason to radicalize and begin engaging in guerilla operations.
Seems like a troll to me
Vijay prashad has been hollering about this for a while I think. We don’t have a government staffed by the people coming out of the class reproduction organs of the bourgeoisie so where is the power they wield moving?
It’s moving into the workplace, now spread across the world and democratized in reverse like the old standard oil cartoon.
Expect people to start saying shit like this more seriously. I predict a startup, no, a respectable branch of equifax or transunion, that monitors and provides access to people’s employment records within the next ten years.
I could see it happeningAct now and secure citizenship with a cheibol today!
this is the final evolution of the unhinged people on Linkedin
Only way this would happen is if the capitalists in charge wanted to put a lot more people in prison. You would essentially be forcing anyone marked with this into a life of crime. It's stupid as shit.
It's a troll post people
Poe's law
Half the posts on the dunk tank are troll posts, but our Hexbears folks...they don't care!
It's low-effort too. It's literally a copy/paste from chatGPT
China social credit 50,000,000 dead winnie da poohs
What's truly horrible is that it's actually just the logical conclusion of the "job provider" rhetoric
Fuck people who think like this, they all belong in a
along with their fascist friends.Working with many different companies and people has reaffirmed to me how easy it is to have a fucked up working environment. Not only that, but how eager some people are to overstep a contract and be weird about paying you. Suddenly you're blacklisted from society because you refuse to help them manage a workplace that you never agreed to manage in the first place. It's trivial to find someone working two people's jobs and being overworked to the point that they fuck up. The idea that they'd be more subject to some asshole's wrath is laughable.
This is like that poster about "just once I wish my employees would say..." in terms of sniffing your own farts. I simply don't give a fuck about what you observed and how you feel about it. If it's a crime, it's something, but if not, even if the person deserved to be told to fuck off, that's some lanyard-tier delusion to think I want to hear how your day went.
gimme an address, i'm about to terminate with cause to a permanent end
"oh you gave incorrect change to that last customer? Wait here, I'm getting my gun to execute you for this offense. Meet me in the break room, worker"
This would be way too intensive for the lazy bourgeoisie to implement and maintain. It would simply create a stupid middle-man agency of private job insurance, and probably a lot more bail bonds because so many people without jobs would be thrown in jail.
If capitalists wanted to do this they'd do something lazier with the same outcome, which they're already doing. Things like tying healthcare to jobs, or replacing pensions with 401ks
Maybe this is the extreme kind of bit needed to get libs to actually think about the concept of opposing bourgois power.
"A job is more than a marriage. Also, work's supposed to suck."
So like, murders solve rate is like 40 percent, while successful purging info from internet is less than 1.
Either it's a troll or it's the end result of some of the most intense self-loathing I've ever seen. Both seem equally plausible
Ah.. I see we're dunking on a tweenager who just discovered libertarianism...
Libertarianism is when you use the state to prevent other people from hiring somebody you fired.
You can tell this one is a troll tbh.
as only the opinion of the employer matters ... there would be absolutely no right of appeal
Come on, liberals love bullshit appeals and that's the only reason they say atrocities are okay because "uh technically, you can appeal it so not sucking the boot of the law is actually terrorism commie."
Belgium had something similar until 1883 ("werkmanboekje", for those who are curious), when it was abolished under pressure of socialist trade-unions. Honestly can't believe such an idea is making a comeback.
"Here's my dog shit opinion and the following is why I think it's based:"
proceeds to not argue their point even in the slightest until the very last paragraph, when at that point it's almost an afterthought
:gulag
but does taht even really need to be said?The style of repetition and shallowness are pretty strong indicators that this is just ChatGPT.
Very similar takes to Polish turbolibertarians.
Is this a bot?
They want organized crime, I guess. Because that's the perfect way to get it.
I just want there to be a maximum voting age
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