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Is this only about full-time jobs? How about location? General living wages were a terrible idea. Not everybody needs one. Some just want an easy gig to finance unimportant stuff.
Back when I was a stoner, I loved sorting bottles in the grocery store. Three days a week, two hours per day, I could show up high. Then minimum wage raised the wage from 7.50 to 13 euros. The job got cancelled, and the cashiers have to take turns doing it. Which they hate.
Those cashiers have to do it, because they need the job. They do need a living wage. I just had too much time. There are many menial jobs like that. Or were. They are now done by people who already had other jobs. Making them work more for the same money, having fewer people with a job.
The dude making a round taking out trash? Yeah, that's also the cashiers now. Making the job a true shitshow.
Living wage for full-time jobs, that I can understand, kinda. But there are tons of menial jobs. I worked a lot of them, until they disappeared. None of them are worth that much money. Many are just a service the company provided. They don't anymore. And everybody is hating it.
One can't make a living selling ice cream cones. But one can save up for some holiday or a car doing that. Well, can't, anymore. There simply are no ice cream stands anymore. Just bullshit prepackaged ice cream.
@Hurts I have no idea where to go with this statement...
We talk about surplus value a lot around here. Well there are tons of jobs whose overall value just isn’t going to be a living for a person, even if they took all that value home.
If every job must produce a livings worth of value those jobs have to be condensed into super jobs. Or just cannot exist.
Full time work needs to pay enough to live on. End of story. But, it reasonable to me that a business can put up a sign asking if anybody wants to do X for y$ and see if they get any takers. If they do, it must work for that person on some level.
My wife does per-diem work in a hospital lab. She doesn’t need it to pay 70k per year. She only works 10-20yrs a month. She gets some fun money, the hospital gets some shifts covered. Everybody wins.
2022 fast food cooks occupation is median $13.29x40x4=$2126 a month Waiters/waitresses $14 x40x4=$2,240 https://www.bls.gov/oes/current/oes_nat.htm#35-0000 1959 a cook on the low end made $50-100 a week assume salary of $50x5x4=$1000 month A waiter/waitress $6-10 a day we will assume salary of $6x5 x4=120 a month Page 690-695 https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=osu.32435051428043&seq=718
Median Rent was $71 in 1960 Median Rent 2020 1br $1621 https://ipropertymanagement.com/research/average-rent-by-year https://www.rent.com/research/national-apartment-rent-price-analysis/
Fast food cooks 2022 Rent would be 76% monthly pay Cooks 1959 Rent would be 7.1% of pay Waiter/waitress 2022 Rent would be 72% of pay Waiter 1959 Rent would be 59% of pay
Maybe there is something to the point that in America that every sector of stuff needs someone making over a million dollars somewhere in the c-suite in an office in every major city and there is so little people making things locally in small batches just barely making a living.
Then minimum wage raised the wage from 7.50 to 13 euros. The job got cancelled, and the cashiers have to take turns doing it. Which they hate.
Not our fault employers are stingy and don’t want to actually pay enough people for the job.
Life is short. I don’t care how hard a job is, if it takes hours away from your life you need to be properly compensated for each of them.
If that story is true (which I have my doubts) the fact that the employer didn't think that job was worth another thirty-three euros a week is hilarious.