1y ago

Trump leads Biden in Georgia: Poll

Archived at https://web.archive.org/web/20240312100542/https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4524764-trump-leads-biden-in-georgia-poll/

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Only 20% upvotes while a post I just saw putting Biden ahead in a few polls sits at 89%. This one is from a swing state, but just before the state of the union address. Seems very ripe for discussion and definitely relevant to the community.
Why? I think we all know why: bad news for Biden = downvotes. This is how we end up in a filter bubble.
- I don't think it's that -- I can only speak for myself but my instant reaction to bad news about Biden from one of a handful of specific users who tend to post it several times to day come rain or come shine is "bro just give it a fucking rest and let the rest of us organically talk politics."
  
  Yeah fair point, I also notice the same names posting this stuff regularly
  
  I feel this, it does come with the usual suspects that leave their skewed analysis as well. Had someone last week proclaim that Biden didn't care about abortion the day after the SOTU, seemingly because he didn't do the Roe V. Wade by fiat. I'm left wondering if it is simply ignorance or something more, until I see the same usernames that is.
  
  Posting doom is fine, I will actively downvote reposts though. 18 posts about a single event, many of them the same title and link is just annoying. Even moreso when it's bad data.
- I really want to see polling after the State of the Union and now that Haley has dropped out.
  If that doesn't move the needle, then we need to re-check polling after the conventions and again after the debates (if we have any).
- No, people shouldn't downvote the messenger. When I see articles like this, it gives me more motivation that I need to fight for him. And I really need that motivation, because I'm not a fan of his
  
  Exactly, I really think the best reason to upvote is because the discussion is relevant to the community and interesting and the best reason to downvote is if it's not. And I think most people need that motivation.
  Things have already improved on this post, to be fair to everyone, but it's still sitting at zero.
  The other commenter Mozz also has a good point about the same accounts posting bad news for Biden over and over again
- Because downvotes are for things I don't like
This is the best summary I could come up with:
That is down slightly from the 6-point lead that Trump had over Biden in the state in the poll from last month.
The former president’s lead expands to 6 points when other third-party candidates are included.
The poll found that a plurality of Biden supporters in the state, 30 percent, are chiefly motivated by their dislike of Trump, while only 15 percent of Trump voters said they are chiefly motivated by dislike of Biden.
A plurality of 32 percent of Trump supporters said they chose him because they care about a specific issue.
He led by the same margin on handling the war between Israel and Hamas.
The poll was conducted from March 5 to 7 among 1,000 registered voters.
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The people of Georgia likely remember 4 years ago when Biden was running around saying if we got 50 D Senators we could pass the whole party platform...
The whole country donated, we won both, and Biden promptly told us he could never change Manchins mind on anything, so trying would be a waste of time.
Which is all the more ridiculous considering Biden's big thing in the primary was how he could get some of the party platform thru a Republican majority Senate.
That makes turnout lower, and when turnout is low, republicans have a chance at the presidency.
Polls aren't everything, but we need to understand why Biden is so unpopular and take steps to fix it or else we're all stuck with trump again.
Ignoring Biden's issues only helps trump.
- There's a lot of propaganda surrounding how badly Biden failed on his agenda (on purpose apparently, constituting a betrayal of everyone who voted for him which justifies not voting for him in the future).
  The thing is, it isn't true. He took the biggest action on climate change in American history, he forgave $138 billion in student loans, he put in a bill to legalize marijuana federally (which the Republicans defeated) and pardoned anyone in federal prison for marijuana, he took massive action on the economy that was focused on the working class instead of Wall Street (to the point unemployment is the lowest it's been in 20 years even though we were still digging out from Covid when he took office). The talking-point version is, more or less, simply made up.
  You're saying that because Manchin blocked the original half-trillion dollar climate bill, and we then did a second round and passed a modified climate bill which still treats the issue as a genuine priority for the first time in American history and attempts to put us on track for a 40% reduction in emissions by 2030, that Biden "ran around" and lied and betrayed the voters of Georgia and doesn't deserve a vote. Yes? Is that what you're claiming, do I have it right?
  
  The thing is, it isn’t true. He took the biggest action on climate change in American history,
  Did he?
  America has literally never produced as much fossil fuels as we have when Biden has been president.
  he forgave $138 billion in student loan
  Sounds like a lot, but not even a rounding error in total student loan debt, and the system is still broken. Biden s excuse for not forgiving all, was saying it was pointless till college is cheaper. He did nothing to make college cheaper, and is throwing out crumbs.
  he put in a bill to legalize marijuana federally (which the Republicans defeated)
  He could order it descheduled and be done before the week is over... That's what he said he'd do, he hasn't done that. And before someone says "Biden can't control federal agencies" he just forced all agencies to do a return to office because Republicans were complaining about telework.
  and pardoned anyone in federal prison for marijuana,
  Since he won't deschedule, more people keep getting arrested.
  he took massive action on the economy that was focused on the working class instead of Wall Street
  Most of "the economy" is about the wealthiest accumulating a shit ton of wealth and record fossil fuels.production, that doesn't help the working class, we're still all fucked.
  the point unemployment is the lowest it’s been in 20 year
  It's actually exactly the same as the month before Biden took office...
  https://www.bls.gov/charts/employment-situation/civilian-unemployment-rate.htm
  So...
  None of the points you just made were true...
  Most voters probably won't recognize all of it was bullshit, but they'd recognize a few and doubt everything else.
  Edit:
  that Biden “ran around” and lied and betrayed the voters of Georgia and doesn’t deserve a vote. Yes? Is that what you’re claiming, do I have it right?
  No, I'm explaining why Biden doesn't have the support he had 4 years ago...
  While we still have time for Biden's campaign team to do something.
  If you plan a picnic and it rains, are you going to go yell at the weatherman who predicted it because he said it was going to happen?
  He tried to warn you. And by your logic that means he not only wanted it to happen, he somehow caused it to happen...
- You really believe the average poll responder is aware of Manchin's intransigence and goes on to blame it on Biden? (All while ignoring Sinema and the deep complications of a divided congress of course.) Oh, to live in that space...
  Instead, we live in a world wherein the left flank of American politics is just naive enough to believe the above. While ignoring the legislation Biden et al. did manage to get over a difficult finish line.

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