What has been your personal experience, so far, with a larger "federated" community?

i saw someone call someone "good sir" unironically. i thought that was just one of our jokes and people stopped doing that in like 2014, but no redditors are still cringe as fuck

but it has been very nice seeing people ask in good(ish) faith about things i thought were obvious and seeing comrades answer with honest, accessible, well thought-out explanations of theory and its applications. sometimes looooong explanations lol.

I think its been fun tbh, dunking and educating, but then again i appreciate that i haven't been on the front lines of the posting war the same way that some comrades have

How many straight up fascists can hide comfortably with liberals in plain sight without any of their neighbors noticing.

Getting real tired of the most lazy lolbertarian arguments that haven't been in vogue since 2007.

HOW WILL PEOPLE HAVE HOUSES IF NOBODY OWNS THE HOUSES AND RENTS THEM? IT'S UMPOSSIBLE!

Read a fucking book. Just fucking one. Goddamn. It's like a Young Republicans meeting found out about lemmy. This is the exact kind of sophomoric college debate club shit I grew out of 15 years ago. YOU'RE ON THE INTERNET. THE SEARCH ENGINE IS RIGHT THERE. SPEND 10 MINS LOOKING SHIT UP.

I've felt that too. I can't stand reddit debate nerd shit. But, having never used reddit, I've had fun pushing back on the reddit libs shoulder to shoulder with fellow hexbears and other lemmy comrades.

So there's an aspect of this I've found myself enjoying/invigorated by. But, i might get over it, and i can understand it already feeling old to people who've already been through it before.

I do hope that within hexbear their will still be a place to have actual discussions amoung leftists who have disagreements whithout being derailed by libs, who don't share any of our common understandings.

Mainly I've noticed that most of the comments on /c/Risa are from hexbears.

i crossed paths with the fallacy guy

i think defederation should be removed as a feature, and that we should forcibly federate every instance and drive these fuckers from our lands. this pussyfooting around with civility and rules based interactions are an exercise in futility because most of these people are programmed to respond in bad faith when ideologically challenged and would not show us anywhere near the amount of courtesy we have shown them had the shoe been on the other foot with respect to posting power (which is kind of how we ended up here in the first place). there is no baseline of respect on their end to work from and likely negative will to work towards even a minimally balanced mode of discourse because they are a bunch of terminally main character brained metropole dwellers who see us as npcs to be punched down upon.

stalin stopped at berlin, we should not make the same mistake.

I'm really happy you federated, because it helped me find you. I'm sorry it's been stressful and dramatic, but I'm hopeful it'll even it soon and that enough good comes of it to make the effort worth it.

Thanks for being here. ❤️

At first the mod log had me like

Now it has me like

I already got banned from one of the comms I was interested in posting in so I'd say it's not going great? Finding out the memes of the fediverse were dogshit was also a bummer but not surprising in hindsight. I did like the sigmarxism reddit so I'm glad lemmygrad has one though

The liberals coming here and/or complaining about us is good content, but other than that very little has been gained. I've had a lemmygrad account for a while and none of the other instances are any good, so federation is pretty useless. It's nice that lemmygradians can comment here now, and it seems like there are a couple hobbyist instances/comms that people are enjoying.

For me it's been good overall, though I tend to ignore the bad cases who wander in. Despite the few trolls/libs/reactionaries, there are some cool new people who've been interacting here and it's also nice to be exposed to new communities on other instances for topics that interest me.

We have to interact with people outside our little comm at some point if we don't want it to die a slow death of attrition. Many, maybe even most people will be unreachable, but we were able to cultivate a sizable userbase back on Reddit just by being uncompromisingly left and very active. There's for sure a lot of trash on Lemmy, but it's not worse than Reddit, and I think ultimately, we will get new comrades out of this.

Hooking up w Lemmygrad feels like peanut butter and jelly

The rest of it I can take or leave, like yeah it’s funny watching libs get dunked on for their brain dead takes but I also feel a piece of my brain die when I am forced to read one

Endless tears about losing another site to terminal Redditism. I'm not reading your fucking your fucking sidebar rules.

Outside of the horrified s, I feel like federation brought the average user age down by like 15 years.

I miss the defederated days. It was really nice not having to see the . I've gotten spoiled with being able to assume that most of the people I'm talking with have a certain level of geopolitical knowledge, whether through studying or meme osmosis. Seeing all the accusations of bots and putler shill bullshit on hexbear was rather jarring. That being said, I do hope things settle down with blahaj.zone so my trans and queer comrades can grow and strengthen their community.

Most of the other instances, while having good folks on them, collectively suck ass and are run by weak ass liberals who pretend they don't have any ideology

dipshit redditors and libs so dumb they cant read and must invent new definitions for words

literally inventing stories about us so that they can feel smug about themselves

i've been around less because i'm working nonstop again but i'm so far.

i like the union with lemmygrad since it feels like we just made a bigger, more powerful hexbear

some of the tech focused communities are interesting.

the libs are genuinely pathetic seeming. it's cool to see the occasional good take from the lib instances and i hope they come join us.

it seems busier here overall

I think it's good to see that there aren't any calls from Hexbears to defederate from this or that instance, unlike the other instances which can't seem to handle our politics mostly. Pretty disgusting to see some of the shit they make up for excuses to defederate, calling us bigoted, or Trump supporters etc. We have to deal with their actual holocaust denial, casual misogyny and ableism, and their smug liberal superiority complex the accompanying racism and you do see us talking about pulling the plug over it?

It hasn't changed much for me considering I'm the only real communist on a site filled with liberals even before federation.

My experience began in earnest when I launched Matapacos, though I had dabbled earlier. Overall, it has been pretty positive. At first, I was worried about catching the ire of the mega-instances, but as time went on, I found that the vast majority of cool people that I end up following aren't domiciled there anyway. The same will turn out for Lemmy in the long run, but the Lemmy network is nowhere near as mature (politically) as the Fediverse itself. Things will be volatile for a bit. The whole federation / defederation war will burn out at some point, and communities will develop on either side of the wall.

I'm still naive, I still think the coherent arguments are good and the tactical PPB is just okay. Of course, it's like <1ppm of liberals who can get over the "PROPAGANDA! THAT'S A CCP TALKING POINT" instinct and start to do even basic Chomsky-level analysis of the world. "Thought-terminating" is absolutely apt to describe the way these people operate.

Still, I don't think I'll transition to just sending giant lenin emojis to guys as rebuttals. I also don't really blame anyone who wants to. At any rate it is literally just posting words on the internet, it doesn't matter either way.

I want hexbear to get more new and old comrades on board. Libs somehow continue to surprise me with how monstrous, how proudly ignorant they are. Same stuff as always, really

This site was slowing dying before federation. Federation breathed new life into this website, so it's good.

Endlessly entertaining.

Mixed. There have been a couple super nice moments of recognition to people outside of lemmy/lemmygrad. However, majority is getting sucked into old Reddit argumentation patterns. But also upvote number bigger

I've been staying local and playing home games, going Good Cop/Comrade Cop in discussions here, because I don't have the time nor energy to argue with assholes all day (I'll go thru and up-vote y'all tho, cos apparently I'm a Chinese/Russian Replicant). Also, so far nothing's really come up in my wheelhouse when I hit All/Active (a.k.a. the I-Want-To-Kill-Braincells setting), tho tbf maybe I'm using it incorrectly and not subscribing to the right communities or whatever. I did go and check out lemmy.film but the takes there made me start spontaneously bleeding out of my eyes so . It's been heartening to find fellow traveler's out in the wild and them finding their way to Hexbear.

Nothing's made me angrier than that covid thread in c/doomer. It's one thing to spew bullshit in a news thread on lemmy.ml for whatever, but to come in here and see people actually grieving and to "but, aksually" that. Then to go crawling back to where he came from and play the victim after getting called out for being a monster. I've never felt more misanthropic in my entire life.

I call for a Protracted People's Posting War upon the Fediverse.

It's like I'm on Reddit again in all the worst possible way. Well, at least we aren't federated to some NSFW instance.

It's been about what I expected, which is a lot of hard work (insofar as posting can be considered work) for minimal results. It's an important step, but there's a lot of room to refine our messaging strategy now that we've extended our reach. I predict a lot more drama to come.

I do miss seeing y'all in every thread, but absence makes the heart grow fonder and I've come to really appreciate my fellow hexbears. The wave of liberalism has made our own differences and infighting seem petty by comparison. I've enjoyed the renewed spirit of comradery around here.

Well, to be honest, I've only been here a couple months, so it's hard to say exactly. But when I first came here I thought it was a breath of fresh air. The usual garbage you see on reddit, everywhere, no matter the sub, was totally absent. It was unique and the first time I'd ever seen such an open and uncompromising LGBT positive space, IRL or internet. The first time I'd ever seen so many people who I agree with politically.

Now it just feels like another subreddit, with the garbage flooding back in. I have no interest in getting in petty internet arguments that have zero purpose other than wasting, truly wasting, time. I have no interest in bullying or being bullied.

The only other instance I've enjoyed seeing is lemmygrad because they seem to have a similar vibe as you do here. The rest just feel like reddit again, which I'm not interested in revisiting.

I'm not sure if I'll stick around, but I do wish I had learned of hexbear.net sooner so I could've seen more of the cozy pre-federation vibe. But from reading comments from long time users, it seems they got bored of that and wanted to be bullies? I don't get that at all, personally I think they may have taken it for granted. But it's probably not my place to say.

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I've had a blast seeing all the arguments. I think Hexbears have become complacent, and a lot of the arguments started out lazy and just went for juvenile dunking strategies. But I think people are getting back into the swing of things.

I'm sad about the conflict with blahaj, though

There's a community out there?

It's an extremely mixed bag.

I don't regret federation, if anything I've become more pro-federation as time as gone by, but it feels like for every decent post we see or comrade we gain, there's 5 more liberals and/or cryptofascists (but I repeat myself) posting about tankies, tankies, tankies. It's entertaining to annoy them and be living in their brains rent free, but they also create completely insufferable takes which are the same reason why Reddit is such an unusable hellhole now. It's like, you wake up and go "Okay, fine, I will tone down the level of dunking and try and be kinder to the libs," and then the next comment or post you see is essentially like "redfash tankies are fundamentally evil" and it's like, how do you even begin to engage with thought-terminating cliches like that aside from stomping on them?

Being federated with lemmygrad is an unequivocal good and we both benefit from it. Other than that, I expect basically all of the instances that are currently considering defederating to do so because while the antagonism might fall a little from our self-control, it will never be enough. They will see anti-NATO or pro-China posts and come in and get mad, and we will see posts saying that China's economy is literally 12 hours from complete collapse and that Putin is Hitler reincarnated and we'll get mad at them. We are currently inside a period of turbulence where everything is mixing and by the end, perhaps in a couple weeks, things will settle into something more stable for everybody.