Toronto @lemmy.ca baernhelm @feddit.de 1 yr. ago

Single Toronto speed camera has raked in a staggering $3.3 million in just 16 months

www.blogto.com Single Toronto speed camera has raked in a staggering $3.3 million in just 16 months

Toronto's biggest cash cow of a speed camera once again ranked at the top of the City's 75 such traffic enforcement devices, its tally rising to we...

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If a single location consistently has a problem with speeding drivers, you've got a poorly designed road.
- Definitely. And yet they never seem to redesign the roads for the speed we want.
  
  Let's redesign streets for the benefit of the people who live there, rather than the speed and convenience of the cars that drive through. I'm sick of the noisy and dangerous traffic around the place where I live, and I can't afford to move.
  
  How else do they get money from the people?
- Just need speed bumps. Speed bumps every few blocks on every street where the limits are below 60km/h. There's no more sure way short of rebuilding the entire roads.
  
  That will certainly fuck the environment, up to tripling the emissions per mile of vehicles. Well done.
- Just add bike lanes on both sides. :P /s
- Feature, not bug. It's a revenue-enhancing device, not a safety-enhancing device. These things usually cause crashes rather than prevent them.
- Or the speed limit is too low
  
  On side is a park, the other side is residential.
  This is the exact place where you'd want low speed limits. Some cities treat the roads beside parks like school zones, dropping the speed to 25 or 30 kph.
Fucking stupid headline trying to suggest that speed enforcement in a city plagued by road casualties, is simply a cash grab
- I don't disagree, but it's funny to me how certain things are prioritized because they are cash grabs. There are many other aspects of driving that need to be policed which aren't limited to speeding, red lights, and parking. It feels like the police/city are disinterested in pursuing anything else, I'm assuming because effort is involved. I see drivers so often fucking around with phones / eyes on something other than the road which is as dangerous as, if not more dangerous than, going 10 km/h over the speed limit. I see tons of super aggressive driving too.
  
  I'm not saying stop speed enforcement with cameras, but maybe police other things that aren't immediately profitable too.
So, what's the excuse for not having one on every street?
- They're really expensive, apparently. But hey, I think moving them around to the most lucrative locations to maximize earnings for the city (assuming they actually get to collect the money), could be a nice way to help subsidize road maintenance or TTC costs.
  
  They’re really expensive, apparently.
  
  Yeah, probably too expensive to literally put them on EVERY street, but they are a tiny investment for the amount of return you get on roads where speeding is common (i.e. the places where these tend to be installed).
  
  If you tell drivers that revenue generated through speeding tickets will towards paying for cycling infrastructure, I'm sure the rates of speeding would plummet. LOL
- They increase traffic accidents
  
  Source?
Kinda wish they'd put up more of those. Encourage safer behaviour on the streets and help plug the hole in the city budget.
- Voters really dislike them because voters like to speed
  
  And don't like being punished. How about I get a tax break if I don't speed, rather than getting my money siphoned because I'm running late? No? Then I'm gonna remain happy that we haven't implemented these where I live.
- Using traffic fines to “help plug the hole in the city budget” creates a perverse incentive to create arbitrary traffic rules with which to fine people that don't actually increase traffic safety, and quite often decrease traffic safety by forcing drivers to focus on potential fines instead of on driving safely.
  
  Highway robbery committed by the government, in other words.
  
  How does forcing drivers to focus on the speed they're driving decrease safety? They only decrease safety if and only if someone speeding slams on the break - in which case there's an increase in safety for non-car drivers due to slower cars.
  
  The cameras should be everywhere because people will continue to ignore safety rules to reach their destination 10 seconds earlier for all eternity.
  
  I'd consider it a toll road for rich and impatient people.
Need more cameras.
I guess the City of Toronto has tolled expressways after all. For rich, impatient people.
Anyone know how fast you have to be going to get a ticket there? Asking for a friend.

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