“Yet another unsavoury EPP chunk of red meat, meant to attract the far-right vote:" EU group backed by von der Leyen plans Rwanda-style migration reforms
“Yet another unsavoury EPP chunk of red meat, meant to attract the far-right vote:" EU group backed by von der Leyen plans Rwanda-style migration reforms

EU group backed by von der Leyen plans Rwanda-style migration reforms

The European People’s party (EPP), an umbrella group of centre-right and conservative parties, has said in the final draft of its manifesto ahead of elections to the European parliament in May that it wants a series of deal with non-EU countries with a view to deporting irregular migrants for asylum processing in “safe” third countries.
“Yet another unsavoury EPP chunk of red meat, meant to attract the far-right vote. It will not work. All the EPP strategy has achieved over the past years, is making the far right bigger. So if they know it doesn’t work, why do they stubbornly repeat the same tactics each time?” said Sophie in ‘t Veld, a Dutch MEP, and the lead representative for the liberal Renew group on the parliament committee for civil liberties, justice and home affairs.
Before mass slaughtering the Jews in concentration camps, the Nazis also proposed to deport all the Jews to some african country, for instance Madagascar. Now it is about "irregular asylum seekers" which are all ayslum seekers. Nobody can enter a country "regularly" to ask for asylum and get it granted. Next it will be about all "migrants" that are considered undesireable. Then it will be about citizens, who cannot prove an aryan lineage, progressive thinkers, LGTB and other marginalized groups. Finally the concentration camps will be reerected.
That is the plan of the fascists. In Germany they have discussed their plans in a meeting between the fascist AfD, the far right CDU and people recognized as parts of illegal fascist "activist" groups.
The EPP is preparing a cooperation with fascists in all of Europe, giving rise to a new era of fascist regimes in Europe.
That might be a bit of a stretch.
Every step in the direction of the fascists will be followed by the demand for another step. But with the first step the political window has shifted, so the next step suddenly seems discussable when before it was just considered to bei heinous, barbaric and strongly rejected. This is how fascism rises. Not in a landslide, but step by step by step. I don't expect some uneducated dissapointed young men from an underdeveloped region to get this. But the politicians know what they do and they make the same mistakes like a hundred years ago. But this time it is deliberate.
Mass deportations to third countries, particularly in Africa, is a plan straight out of the Nazi book https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madagascar_Plan
No, it's not. It's precisely what happened back then and that's precisely what the remaining living Holocaust and Weimar Republic survivors are saying.
So why don't you believe them?
Not that I agree with mass murdering or deportation, then again, I'm realistic enough to understand that this mass of "asylum seekers" is absurd. I am not negating that some of them have a quite solid reasons to ask for asylum, but come on, all of them ?
Wrong, you can do it, asking for asylum to the embassy of the destination country which is present in your country. Or you can go to a border and ask for it. Or go to a police station once in the country. Or any other way that don't involve to try to go on the run the moment they set foot in a country.
And before someone starts to depict me as a racist, I am all in for integration. I have no problems if you want to come to my country for a better life or because you are fleeing from political or other forms of persecution, you are welcone as long as you want to integrate into the society and follow the laws of my country. I will support you and I will respect your hard work and the even harder choices and sacrifices you have done.
I literally have a lot of problems if all you want to do once in my country is to be the scum that make my city more dangerous for any of its inhabitants, you want to live on petty crime and consciously ignore the laws of my country.
And I don't see any problem in a country (or the EU) not wanting this scum.
You are mixing up cause and effect. The current and proposed regulations to clamp down on migration make it impossible for many of them to earn a living in an honest way, thus resulting in some of them turning to crime to survive. You can't prevent that by making even harder to get an legal status that allows working in the country.
Which doesn't work in countries that are subject to civil war or politically opressive regimes. What do you think happens if you are surveilled as a political activist and go to the embassy of that country? You will never make it to your second appointment. Or lets take Afghanistan for example. The people who used to work for Germany were largely fucked over and left to now be killed by the Taliban, as they were told to go through a bureaucratic process at an office, that was already closed for month before the Taliban finally took over again.
Except you can't because there is noone processing it there, the offices are all in the country.
And voila, you entered the country "irregularly". It is simply impossible to enter a country regularly to ask for asylum there. That is the whole point of the system.
I think you should review your thoughts on this, because some of your examples are not actually possible.
For example, you say that an asylum seeker could go to a police station once in the country. That implies that they didn't, in fact, enter the country "regularly".
You've also implied that the asylum seekers are going on the run. Those people are called illegal immigrants. Asylum seekers are the ones who find one of the increasingly few and difficult ways to actually enter the country and claim asylum.
Even the UK, which has a Hostile Environment policy for immigration, allowed 76% of asylum applications in 2022. If these applications weren't legitimate, they would have found a reason to refuse them. They would love to brag about it in Parliament.