The absolute fucking nerve of these freaks accusing anyone else of causing harm as their guy, for whom they are trying to shame us into voting, actively funds a genocide.
We have a lot of fucking liberal ass losers in here. Must be election season.
Liberals have pulled this "You'd better vote for us because the other guy will literally kill you if they win!" thing since the 60s, they've just shifted around the minority group they target with their threats.
Maybe if liberals wanted a coalition with leftists, they'd try to do more than piss on our heads and say it's raining. You wanna vote for genocide Joe, that's your prerogative. But don't come in here and try to guilt me into voting for your boy who's out here running guns to a fascist ethnostate, who has done NOTHING to protect those minority groups, who's still building a wall, who's still raising the military/ICE budgets, and try to act like you're some high and mighty, moralistic motherfucker.
You want blue team to win because you think it's "harm reduction" to wait 10-15 years to implement whatever terrible thing conservatives want to do today.
Don't believe me? How's that border wall thing going?
I don't think Biden being a pragmatic choice is a settled matter. I haven't seen anything that implies he is a meaningful distinction on things I care about.
Israel? Nope
Student debt? Nope
Abortion? Nope
Unions? Nope
Climate change? Nope
The border? Nope
Homelessness? Nope
War on drugs? Nope
Inflation? Nope
Tax lobbying? Nope
Healthcare? Nope
LGBT protection? Maybe if you squint your eyes
Campaign finance? Nope
Difference between productivity and purchasing power? Nope
Copyright? Nope
Breaking up big business monopolies? Nope
Oh yeah...
And...
WAR????????????????? FUCKING NO
The worst most hawkish fascist military might that has ever existed and continues to constrict the entire planet? Nope
The only difference is whether fascists get radicalized or they get emboldened
And this right here is actually the crux of the issue showing itself in full force.
You ever wonder why shit gets sandbagged?
These smug liberals genuinely see our hardships and concerns but draws the conclusion "oh well good golly gee willickers! I guess they just love to throw tantrums".
After reading through the list of liberal complaints about what a unique and scary thing a 2nd Trump term would be, in particular with regards to the Project 2025, I'm beginning to wonder why Libs don't ever make demands of their party. Like, if Trump plans on sacking a whole bunch of civil-servants because they are perceived as disloyal to him/the GOP, then you already know what the gameplan for the Right is going to be, so just begin making your own preparations. Begin making your own database of freaks whom the GOP has put into power for being loyal foot-soldiers to the party and the second you get back into any sort of room that with decisionmaking power, begin ruthlessly purging them. Not like Biden is even against the concept of a purge, judging by how his team of bat-shit Neocons are currently running Ukraine.
Oh yeah the usual process where we have a primary election to decide the nominee. I sure am glad there’s a primary I get to vote in to decide the nominee.
Oh wait, my state didn’t even have a primary! So no dipshit, he didn’t become the nominee by the usual process, he became the nominee by being entirely unopposed.
These people simply dont see Biden as a sponsor of genocide. There's no point in arguing with someone over whether or not to vote for Biden if you both can't agree on that fact.
Never let these people put this on you. It's on them. If Trump wins, it's their fault for not advocating against genocide and for a different candidate.
They're the ones not making a pragmatic choice. The only thing they're choosing to do is scold people, which doesn't work.
And if we are irrational, if we aren't being pragmatic, then why do they think they could reason with us? If we're unreasonable and Biden is reasonable, then they should be directing their talk to him if they actually want to stop Trump.
This guy engagement baited his left so hard he got funding to run for office. I really feel like we need to do better about ignoring cynical actors like this.
Too late now for him, because his profile is raised now. But in the future maybe we should try to notice when we're getting baited for months-to-years and blowing up someone's numbers.
Ok, let's flip the script. Republicans have been winning culture war after culture war for the past....50 years. You see real demand for some push back against the GOP and for your supposed values, and you're just wiling to take the risk to lose the election because you think enough concessions will appease the GOP? Biden literally had a golden opportunity to support Palestine and run on Trump being a zionist. Look at the rallies the so-called "normies" aren't all zionists, and anti-war is a historically winning strategy.
From an electoral standpoint, at least republicans found their winning strategy. Democrats are too pig-headed to try anything new, Minnesota dems have been on a roll when they were insecure in whether or not they'd even be around next election. New York democrats are so complacent they're twiddling their thumbs into irrelevance as the GOP gains ground. They're too scared of fitting the "SJW" stereotype perfectly.
Stancil is a lanyard's lanyard. The OP made a mistake and didn't write "a real primary" so Stancil gets to be smug with his "Well, actually..." comment.
Not having a primary creates a powder keg of resentment. If Biden is such a strong candidate he would've won easily and it wouldn't have been an issue. If he's so strong why be so afraid of the competition?
you are within your rights to believe Biden is not the perfect bottom. but he IS the bottom, through the usual process. so now the decision is before you - do you make a pragmatic choice or do you punish the entire top world for not giving you exactly what you wanted
Weird how people not voting is "punishing the world for not getting exactly what they wanted" but the Democrats foisting the same old dude on us two elections in a row is somehow not worth criticism
I see no realistic path to a Second Biden term, first nationaly Biden is super unpopular even in his own party, and Trump is still god king in his party, and second, with the Electoral Collage devaluing votes from populous states who tend to vote more democrat, I will be shocked if he wins. Now everytime I tell a lib this I get yelled at that its too soon to make predictions and Biden beet trump last time and vote blue no matter who. I can understand not wanting Trump to win, what I do not get is sicking your head in the sand and just assuming its a garenteed win
they love to perform this inversion of real power structures by imagining individual voters as gods holding the entire world in their hand, and elected officials as unshiftable entities with no more free will or agency than a tree shedding its leaves for winter. it's like liberal democracy's entire purpose is to obscure the concentration of power, not to distribute it broadly.