Fedora members plan on creating a Cosmic Desktop Spin
Pop!_OS' COSMIC Desktop May See a Fedora Entry
There already is an experimental image based on Silverblue with the alpha stage Cosmic Epoch Desktop.
Mainly finetuning and SELinux profiles are needed!
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This would be awesome. Fedora has really been one of the best distros lately, hopefully they don't get fucked by Red Hat in the future.
Didnt it get fucked once? Also what did fedora do lately? Seriously asking.
No, they only fucked CentOS, and they made RHEL proprietary last year. Since Ubuntu's decline, Fedora basically took it's place. It's very stable but not extremely outdated, has great security, always supports the newest technologies like Flatpak, Wayland, Pipewire, etc., has good Desktop spins and constantly innovates. The next Fedora KDE release will even completely drop support for X11, which is a good step because it forces developers to adopt Wayland. They also have pretty good immutable spins like Silverblue, Kinoite and others. Other cool distros like Nobara and uBlue are also built on top of Fedora.
There used to be a Linux just called Red Hat Linux. It was run by Red Hat obviously but a community built up around it.
Fedora was literally created by RedHat and staffed to be the âcommunityâ distro. They did this so that they could be âcorporateâ with Red Hat Linux ( now called Red Hat Enterprise Linux ).
I find it funny when people say that Red Hat is going to try to take away the community in Fedora and use their corporate behaviour in RHEL as an example. They literally created them both. The whole point of Fedora is to be community driven.
Fedora is a lot like RHEL in most ways but absolutely not a competitor to it. More of a testing ground. This is all by design.
Where things went wrong for them is that somebody created a bug for bug clone of RHEL. The story was that the clone would be a âcommunityâ but that is bonkers because ( by definition ) the clone cannot deviate from RHEL. It cannot innovate. It cannot modify or contribute code ( not even fix bugs ). So, it was just a zero cost version of RHEL. The whole reason for creating Fedora was to prevent that.
Anyway, Red Hat likes Fedora and WANTS it to be âfreeâ and anybody that understands the history knows why.
In fact, the problem is somewhat that Fedora is not allowed to get too corporate. You will notice that Fedora is one of the staunchest distros with regards to including potentially patented codecs and such for example.
I'd hop to this in a heartbeat. I do enjoy pop os and I've been looking for a reason to go back to Fedora since I've been on openSUSE for a while.
I use PopOS as my daily driver on my desktop. The tiling window management is simply the chefâs kiss.
Iâm stoked for Cosmic DE, itâs awesome to see further community adoption of System76âs contribution to Linux.
I have honestly been tempted to hop to Pop!_OS for their take on GNOME. The auto-tiling was really nice when I tested it in a virtual machine.
I believe it's just a gnome plugin. Look it up. :)
Pop Shell can actually be used on other distros. Here's how: https://support.system76.com/articles/pop-shell/
Fucking awesome. I love pop os but Iâd probably switch to this in a heartbeat. Ubuntu has such a huge community so you basically have access to every package out there, but Iâd rather deal with fedoraâs package manager and flat packs then ever think about dealing with snaps
No way pop os will ship with snaps. System76 devs have already said they prefer flatpak
Yeah Snaps (and performance too) are not really Ubuntus stopper problems (you can easily remove them). I mainly want Plasma 6 fast (as I am sure an en par Cosmic will need at least 2 years) so Kubuntu is not an option really. Also snappifying core packages like Firefox, where I am not sure how that affects the tab isolation capabilities, is a bit annoying.
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That would actually be amazing
My body is ready
I still donât understand the need of putting so much time and energy into DE #284838284. I have been using KDE for ages and if I donât like the looks of it, I change them. Other than that, 99% of my daily use of a linux is independent of any DE. I actually donât even care what DE it is. Just give me a Terminal Emulator and a graphical desktop to run software.
Other than that, 99% of my daily use of a linux is independent of any DE. I actually donât even care what DE it is. Just give me a Terminal Emulator and a graphical desktop to run software.
Do you realize how far you are from the average computer user? DEs and GUIs are very important for most people, and are one of the biggest "selling factors" for attracting new users.
You are right, but in the end there are so many good choices already. Reminds me of this: xkcd #927
They like GNOME, obviously, but they also diverge quite a lot from its workflow (not to say to the better, I have only minimal GNOME experience and no Cosmic Epoch experience).
They want something with their native tiling out of the box, written entirely in Rust. And they are doing something really beneficial here, tbh unlike all the other projects that want to implement their own stuff.
I agree that we dont need more fragmentation, but Kwin and Mutter are both written in memory unsafe languages, and I have many memory safety errors in KDE.
For sure a polished KDE plasma 6 is more usable than their alpha, but
So while I think I dont really like their type of Desktop (I like KDE but tbh I think I could also change to the GNOME style), I sure hope that KDE will switch to Rust more.
Problematic is that KDE is completely and entirely tied to Qt, which is C++ and C only pretty much. This makes KDE waaay to stubborn and I honestly dont think they will every change to Rust at all.
Budgie already thought of using Smithay / Cosmics compositor, but it wasnt ready (I think thats the reason). I think that was a mistake, but its a hard choice.
I think that's one thing about open source project : a lot of people work for free so they invest time on what they want and like. I don't know if it's what happens here, but I think in general it is not fair to ask for an optimal time management in open source communities.
I would be just like you if it weren't that with KDE dragging windows show visible lag and moving them from screen A to screen B causes a micro stutter, the PC lagging into a stop if I drag the window in between screens nonstop.
This doesn't happen in gnome. It really sucks, because like you, I prefer having the freedom of customising everything to my liking in KDE, but the window behaviour with an nvidia card is simply not acceptable. Until that changes, I'll stay in the dog house.
Oh, usually Iâm very sensitive with things like that, but have not noticed any lags/stutters and Iâm someone who immediately sees when the screen is below 120Hz. I use Garuda on my gaming pc and Debian Sid on my old Acer notebook, both with Nvidia GPUâs. Hopefully they will release a fix soon. Did you already try nouveau? Or KDE 6?
Having Cosmic on Tumbleweed would be super awesome too
oh yes. I'm ready
This is pretty much my setup anyway. I run Pop Shell on top of Fedora and add dash to dock.
I'm just absolutely hooked on the autotiling built into pop shell.
If its an official spin all the better.
System76 developed its own Desktop, not a modified GNOME anymore. It looks similar, but it is a completely different and novel piece of software.
I can't wait. As long as they keep the autotiling feature working as well as it does now I'm down.
Is that matrix group for just fedora cosmic or fedora in general
Look at the group? Its "Fedora Cosmic" so yep, but for some reasons Fedora has two servers fedoraproject.org and fedora.im
desktop linux is turning into android lmao
All thanks to guhnome and shit hat