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Israeli state TV proudly broadcasting prisoner abuse

Who even needs investigative journalists with hidden cameras when there's Israeli state television

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This is what it would’ve been like in Germany 1943 if the Nazis had television.
- 1943 is not that long ago, television existed, especially in Germany.> Television in Germany began in Berlin on 22 March 1935, broadcasting for 90 minutes three times a week. It was home to the first public television station in the world, named Fernsehsender Paul Nipkow.>
  
  Wow. I had no idea. Not many common volk would’ve had television though eh? Sounds like an luxury reserved for the rich.
- Do you have the slightest idea what the fuck you're even comparing this to
  
  The fact that Israel has intentionally put itself in the position to be compared to the horrors of Nazi Germany is the problem, bud.
  
  Yup. Thanks for checking.
  
  Genocide.
  
  We are comparing the German-Jewish genocide with the Israeli-Palestinian genocide.
  
  Yes. They were comparing genocidal fascists to genocidal fascists.
  
  Will that do or will you need somebody to draw you a picture?
  
  What would you compare it to? Is this how prisoners should be treated?
  
  Yes. We're comparing two countries run by Lebensraum human trash.
  
  Seems fair to me
  
  Shut the fuck up pearl clutcher
  
  Besides Gaz Chambers they are very similar
  
  I guess you don't equate it because the prisoners aren't starved and abused enough? How much worse do you want it to get before you denounce it? It's at least as bad as what the Americans were doing in the Abu Ghraib prison.
  
  Yeah man! That bread does not even have mold on it! /s
  
  That sort of comment is to be expected on Lemmy. A lot of very ignorant people here. Obviously the Holocaust wasn't as well taught in Australia as it was in the Netherlands.
Also here's the IDF broadcasting themselves arresting random people in Gaza who end up there.

The IDF seems to imply that they get tortured into saying they are Hamas
Even the old “state v non-state actor” issue is clear on this one - irregardless of human morality and basic decency:

If legit army, they must get full protections (IDF says no, int’l law is dubious for Al-Qassam - Hamas has command structure and salaries, but often skips uniforms and hides among the populace)

If not legit army, must be treated with protection offered to civilians UNTIL a court gets involved and adjudicates them to not be just civilians

Article 11 - Protection of persons

The physical or mental health and integrity of persons who are in the power of the adverse Party or who are interned, detained or otherwise deprived of liberty as a result of a situation referred to in Article 1 shall not be endangered by any unjustified act or omission

[further down in same text]

Article 45 - Protection of persons who have taken part in hostilities

A person who takes part in hostilities and falls into the power of an adverse Party shall be presumed to be a prisoner of war… Should any doubt arise as to whether any such person is entitled to the status of prisoner of war, he shall continue to have such status and, therefore, to be protected by the Third Convention and this Protocol until such time as his status has been determined by a competent tribunal.

If a person who has fallen into the power of an adverse Party is not held as a prisoner of war and is to be tried by that Party for an offence arising out of the hostilities, he shall have the right to assert his entitlement to prisoner-of-war status before a judicial tribunal and to have that question adjudicated…[more legalese and closing loopholes]…

Any person who has taken part in hostilities, who is not entitled to prisoner-of-war status and who does not benefit from more favourable treatment in accordance with the Fourth Convention shall have the right at all times to the protection of Article 75 of this Protocol. In occupied territory, any such person, unless he is held as a spy, shall also be entitled, notwithstanding Article 5 of the Fourth Convention, to his rights of communication under that Convention.
- Irregardless
  
  Just say regardless. The ir- negates something that already negates in the way you want. Its only fun to say, it very unfunly negates everything you say after it
"What was on Oct 7th will not return."

Pretty sure this is how you fast-track yourself into another one, chief.
- Well, obviously. How else are they gonna manufacture their next causus belli?
the lesson Israel is gonna learn from this is how to separate the "most moral army in the world/we have a right to defend ourselves" propaganda intended for the global audience from the "we children of light shall bathe in the blood of the animals/no palestinian is innocent every man, woman and child must be tortured to death" propaganda that, until now, was kept internal.
Can someone link to the video? I tried finding it on youtube but can't. It would be good to have some context.
- Twitter has posts about it. It's all rather sectioned apart I haven't seen the full video. Here's another video
  
  A twitter post: https://twitter.com/CensoredNws/status/1759707936937456108
  
  Ok so straight out of the Guantanamo bay playbook then?
All I see is a bunch mexican jokers.
Oh noes! A video released by thr gubament meant to piss people off, this is only going to cause more violenceses and distrust of that state and the peopleses in it.

To be honest, i could hardly watch that video, all the actors in it where glowing so bright.
- Your comment is asinine and doesnt reinforce your propaganda.
  
  YOUre PRopAGAnDAs!

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