Social networks are getting stingy with their data, leaving third-party developers in the lurch
Social networks are getting stingy with their data, leaving third-party developers in the lurch
2023 was the year social networks realized that they were sitting on massive troves of data. And some companies, such as Twitter (now X) and Reddit,
“Their data” HA.
Hey! It took years of hard work to develop the good will necessary to get into a position to take advantage of their data!
Mark Zuckerberg: "Yeah so if you ever need info about anyone at Harvard just @ me. I have over 4,000 emails, pictures, addresses, SNS."
"What? How'd you manage that one?" a friend asked.
"People just submitted it," "I don't know why. They 'trust' me. Dumb fucks."
edit: copy/paste cleanup
Unfortunately, when we sign up to their EULAs we "willingly" give everything up... So technically it ends up being legally theirs 🥺
I’m on Lemmy due to this!
I literally use this platform just to run from bots and cooperate greed.
I don't think the Lemmy is well prepared to handle bots or more sophisticated spam, for now we're just too small to target. I usually browse by new and see spam staying up for hours even in the biggest communities.
Just chiming in here: there are at the moment some problems with federation. I’m an admin on LW, and generally we remove spam pretty quickly but it currently doesn’t federate quickly. We are working on solutions that temporarily fix it till the lemmy devs themselves fix it.
The moderation on Lemmy is pretty poor and there is no clear (at least to me) avenue to help or offer help. Reporting it is pointless.
So I agree. Lemmy cannot handle it at the moment. That does not give confidence of it being handled when it gets larger, and the spam / bots becoming more sophisticated.
I do appreciate however, that all platforms have to go through this learning process.
Lol, well it's not immune to either. As soon as anyone thinks Lemmy has ROI, it will be targeted by bots, corporate greed, and scrapers.
But all of our posts are publicly available in the Internet and in my opinion should be fair game for web crawlers, archivists, or whoever wants to use it. That's the free and open Internet.
What's shitty is when companies like reddit decide it's "their" data.
...corporate?
Corporations cooperate greedily.
Long live Lemmy!
Testify! 👏🏻👊🏻
Fuck spez.
That's Steve Huffman folks!
Does this mean the monetary value of personal data is falling? I'm thinking this may be some sort of price fixing.
It's the opposite.
They're hoarding more of it because they're wanting to capitalize on it.
Sharing your capital for free is a bad business move.
It's probably more like when Amazon gets into yet another business and kills the competition. Whatever those 3rd party devs are doing the social networks can do themselves and make more money.
I suspect it's a similar story with AI
Before AI took off, it was necessary to make groundbreaking discoveries. Pretty much all the architectures and most if not all of the data for training were released open source
Now that AI is taking off, these companies don't want to help their competition. So their data and algorithms are becoming more and more closed off
Data has always been valuable, even before Surveillance Calitalism. But now with the rise of AI, the owners of social platforms that were easily accessible are now making it harder to hoard the data because they realize they can use it for their own LLM training
Not to mention data's various other uses like advertising/marketing, selling of it foreign governments/advesaries/law enforcement agencies, etc.
We're scanning the very last email! It surely has all the passwords!
Ohh fuck! Another fuckin cat picture zip file!
This is the best summary I could come up with:
However, in May, Christian Selig, the developer of the popular iOS client Apollo, had a call with the company where he learned that the cost demanded by the platform was so high that his app would go out of business.
As he wrote in detail on his blog, he noted that Threads starting with ActivityPub integration doesn’t automatically mean that we’ll see a flourishing ecosystem of apps by default.
“Again though, the integration of Threads into this ecosystem doesn’t necessarily equate to a larger market — as Meta may not need to use many of the back-end services, and most likely will not initially allow their users to use alternative clients,” Coates said.
“On the other hand, Meta’s integration may cause a lot more interest in self-hosting and other companies and communities may join the larger Mastodon ecology and that would increase the opportunities and possibility for services and products of this kind,” he noted.
The Iconfactory’s principal developer Ged Maheux told TechCrunch that the company has learned to diversify its revenue across different apps after the bad experience of Twitterific’s shutdown.
Earlier this week, Maheux and Iconfactory began a new Kickstarter campaign for a new app called Tapestry, which will allow you to connect your social media accounts and RSS feeds through a chronological timeline.
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