Appeals court allows California law to go into effect, restricting concealed carry in public places
Appeals court allows California law to go into effect, restricting concealed carry in public places
A US appeals court Saturday paved the way for a California law banning the concealed carry of firearms in “sensitive places” to go into effect January 1, despite a federal judge’s ruling that it is “repugnant to the Second Amendment.”
A US appeals court Saturday paved the way for a California law banning the concealed carry of firearms in “sensitive places” to go into effect January 1, despite a federal judge’s ruling that it is “repugnant to the Second Amendment.”
The law – Senate Bill 2 – had been blocked last week by an injunction from District Judge Cormac Carney, but a three-judge panel filed an order Saturday temporarily blocking that injunction, clearing the path for the law to take effect.
The court issued an administrative stay, meaning the appeals judges did not consider the merits of the case, but delayed the judge’s order to give the court more time to consider the arguments of both sides. “In granting an administrative stay, we do not intend to constrain the merits panel’s consideration of the merits of these appeals in any way,” the judges wrote.
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I can understand your points here, but I still don't understand, and maybe it's just me, how not knowing who around has a gun makes everyone safer than knowing that you have armed people around in case there's a problem.
Like someone else said, everyone they know conceals as a deterrent from mugging. I'm no mugger, but I know I'd be a lot less likely to mug someone I saw was carrying a gun.
I'd like to see some actual hard data that having legal concealed weapons actually makes people safer than having them out in the open.
I'd be a lot less likely to mug someone I saw was carrying
Sure, but if you were a mass shooter you'd take out the guy with a holster on his hip first.
Maybe I'm putting too much thought into this, but if I were a mass shooter, I would avoid shooting up the place where I saw someone with a gun in a holster.
Especially if you knew there was a damn good chance others were carrying that you couldn't see, too.
That's not what I'm saying.
Let's say I'm a mass shooter. I'm going to kill as many people as I can before I'm taken out. I know I'm going to die either way.
Scenario 1: I walk into a mall and I'm going to start shooting, but I see a guy with a gun and I go somewhere else where I know I'll get a chance to kill more people.
Scenario 2: I walk into a mall and I only suspect someone might have a gun, so I start shooting in the hopes that no one does.
Anyway, there are still mass shootings in states where people can have concealed weapons, so it's not like that is proof they are a deterrent either.
Also, I wish people wouldn't just angrily downvote my comments rather than talk to me when I am trying to be as reasonable and non-confrontational about this as I can. Especially when I have admitted that maybe I'm just not understanding this.
I appreciate the discourse I am having with you.
Mass shootings happen in "gun free" zones. Legally carried guns are for the immediate defense of life. It isn't complicated.
This is about concealed vs. open carry. No one is talking about not allowing guns at all.