New Rule: Everything I don't like is antisemitic

The Israeli government is murdering children and committing war crimes, and they're upset about what The Onion has to say about it.
- They are targeting the press, they really care about public opinion
  
  They're also full on slaughtering the press too.
  So a rundown of what they're doing
  Killing 2 civilians for every 1 Hamas
  Killing children (50% of Gaza is under 18)
  Killing journalists
  They're 100% correct Hamas needs to be wiped out because Hamas wants Jews to not exist, but goddamn the ends to not justify the means.
  They've lost the fucking plot.
  Mark my words anti-Semitism is going to continue it's crescendo and it's 100% because of the IDF and that asshat running Israel.
- Reminds me of that time Winnie the Poo got mad at some random child making fun of him on tiktok
- East crimes? Typo or some phrase I've never heard of?
  
  Swipe typo. "War"
- That looks like a private organization.

The ironic thing is, conflating any and all criticism of the state of Israel with anti-semitism could be argued as anti-semitic itself, because to suggest that jewish people in general and the Israeli state/military are one in the same such that criticism of the later is also hateful towards the former, is also to suggest that jewish people as a whole are responsible for the actions of Israel.
As cultural groups as a whole are inherently unable to be guilty of crimes (since even if a large number of people belonging to one commit some crime, such a group will also contain members that cannot be guilty of it, like young children), but states and similar entities, being organized and capable of decision-making, can be, then any attempt to link the moral culpability of a state and that of a cultural group is inherently to apply unfair accusations to that group, and thus hateful to it.
- Should one be allowed to have a national state if that national state is an ethnostate, practices apartheid, and commits genocide? I'm seriously asking because that is a standard I would hold any country to. And I don't see how it means that "Jewish people can't have a homeland", just that it's unacceptable to build a homeland on the mass graves of the natives.
  and it must restrain itself impeccably when fighting against terrorists with human shields.
  Ridiculous. How does that single out Israel? No other nation shoots through 30 members of a single family to kill a "terrorist". How are Israel held to a different standard?
  Sounds to me like a genocidal excuse fantasy.
  
  and it must restrain itself impeccably when fighting against terrorists with human shields.
  A base level of restraint would be fucking fantastic. Israel has killed more journalists in the past 10 weeks than ANYONE has EVER killed in a whole year. They dropped more bombs in a single week than America dropped in an entire year fighting ISIS, and in an area the size of a city. Calling it self defense is whitewashing intentional genocide.
  
  Zionism has had a long and troubled history by this point, and I don't even know much below the surface. I'll tell you right up front I view Israel as an apartheid state and I'm not even a leftist. It's just right out there in the open, for anyone to see.
  Here in the US, we have a Christian Nationalism movement that would love to set up exactly what Israel has in "The American Redoubt", also known as "Greater Idaho".
  Fucking terrifies me and my property isn't even in their sights for conquest. Building a nation state along ethnic or religious boundaries is wrong in my opinion. I hold that opinion because I'm an American who believes in immigration, mixing of races, and freedom for all. Just the phrase "Jewish nation" makes my skin crawl.
  quick edit: of course, all the ethnostates surrounding Israel are immoral in my view also.
  
  Israel has no right to exist where it does right now. No group of people has a right to force others out of their homes to establish a nation for themselves. By your logic if all peoples have a right to establish a nation wherever they see fit then the Roma people can justifiably show up in tel aviv tomorrow and start conquering the place since they have no nation of their own
  
  Please explain to me what "existential threat" is being posed to you by the children being murdered in Palestine?
  
  I think you're conflating 2 other things: Religion and culture.
  Jews as a religion should absolutely not be allowed their own nation state, just as Islam shouldn't and Christianity certainly shouldn't either. In fact, there should be no religion-states at all. One of the fundamental values in democratic societies is freedom of religion; people should be allowed to believe whatever religion they want. Any state that interferes with that right is in violation of one of the basic human rights, and a religion-state is by definition violating that right.
  Jews as a culture should absolutely be allowed their own nation state, in fact, that's what Israel is. Such a state is indeed allowed to have interests, but "exterminating all non-Jews in the country" isn't a legitimate interest. In fact, you'll recall that a world war was triggered because a country wanted to exterminate a specific ethnic / religious group not only within their borders but also in their neighbors' country. Such a state is also allowed to defend itself, but I think it's normal for a persecuted people to resort to terrorism when other avenues for ending their persecution failed. That doesn't give the right to the persecuter to persecute even more. You'll note that we also heavily criticize the US for their "war on terrorism", and rightly so. Gaza is also not an existential threat to Israel the way Russia is to Ukraine either. There's a world of difference between the 2 conflicts.
  So yeah, I guess I agree with you in part (there's a difference between Jews in general and the Israeli government), but I really disagree with you on the "Jewish nation" part.
  That said, I'm just a random dude from the other side of the world, and I don't know anything about the specifics of the situation in the country, so take my opinion with a grain of salt.
  
  When I hear Israel has a right to exist because Jewish people need a home, I immediately wonder whether the person saying so would agree that Nazi Germany had a right to exist because German people needed a home. Nazi Germany is gone now and ethnic Germans seem better off for it.
  
  So does this mean that Israel exist as an apartheid state for the Jews?
- I’m going to start doing this now lol
  Edit: pointing it out**

I think a big part of it, here in the US, is besides all the post WW2 sentiment, a lot of folks here in the bible belt literally think they are God's chosen people, and so whatever they do is right by God, no matter how terrible. I recently showed up for jury duty and was speaking to a lady there about her son who had joined the Marine Corps. and thought he might get deployed, and she said, I shit you not, "At least he'll be fighting for God's people".
I've seen antisemitism. I've been in online communities that slowly devolved into rat caricatures and conspiracy theories about how Jews are out to destroy the world. So I know that modern antisemitism persists and is a thing to watch out for. But it's not antisemitic to admit that Zionist Israel is butchering innocent people because they want to claim all of Palestine for themselves, and that the west is too weak willed to do anything about it for fear of being called antisemitic, or going against "God's chosen people". That's not antisemitism, it's an objective, observable fact.
- The even bigger issue is the Bible Belt is those moron’s reading of Revelation, which has them thinking Israel has to control Jerusalem for the rapture to happen.
  
  That’s actually a requirement?
  Do they have to hold up the Holy Grail and yell out “Jewmanji”, too?

Bro can i just say that i fucking hate that anti-semetic is even an argument used when someone demonstrates support for Hamas? it doesnt even make sense because by definition both parties are semetic.
- I think there is a very good argument of antisemitism if you support Hamas. There is no argument for antisemitism if you support Palestinians.
- Regardless of semantics, and how Israel's own actions are a very large part of the problem, you still gotta agree that Hamas is racist against Jews.
  
  Indeed, in other words, just as the IDF is racist against Palestinians
- Who the fuck supports Hamas? It's an actual terrorist organization that's oppressing people in Palestine
  
  You would be surprised. Some people are fucking insane.
  
  Every source I find suggests that Hamas has significant support from the people of Palestine
  
  You're telling me that you haven't seen those green headbands at 'peace rallys'? They're at every one I've seen on the news. Including the one where they attacked Santa LoL.
  Those are Hamas flags. Dunno what that could be other than support.... they're rocking the merch.
- Colloquially yeah it makes a lot of sense to say Hamas is antisemitic, the word means hatred for Jews regardless of the etymology of 'semite'. Take it up with marriam-webster, not the people correctly using the modern definition of the word
  
  Hamas Charter, excerpt.
  16. Hamas affirms that its conflict is with the Zionist project not with the Jews because of their religion. Hamas does not wage a struggle against the Jews because they are Jewish but wages a struggle against the Zionists who occupy Palestine. Yet, it is the Zionists who constantly identify Judaism and the Jews with their own colonial project and illegal entity.
  
  I guess that would make Israel anti-Semitic as well.
- it doesnt even make sense because by definition both parties are semetic.
  Oof, either you're just grossly misinformed and performing a cringey "ackchually", or you're anti-semitic yourself and perpetuating anti-semitic rhetoric.
  While yes, both are Semitic people, the term 'anti-semitic' was specifically coined by Nazi Germany to make their genocide seem like it had a basis in science. They specifically used it to refer to Jews. Nobody uses "anti-semitic" to mean all semites except hate groups and holocaust deniers who are trying to say "see, it doesn't even mean Jews specifically! Jews are just playing the victim!"
  I will assume you're simply ignorant or misinformed, but feel free to correct me if this was actually an intentional dog-whistle.
- Due to the root word Semite, the term is prone to being invoked as a misnomer by those who interpret it as referring to racist hatred directed at all "Semitic people" (i.e., those who speak Semitic languages, such as Arabs, Assyrians, and Arameans). This usage is erroneous; the compound word antisemitismus (lit. 'antisemitism') was first used in print in Germany in 1879[17] as a "scientific-sounding term" for Judenhass (lit. 'Jew-hatred'),[18][19][20][21][22] and it has since been used to refer to anti-Jewish sentiment alone.

- Best take on this. A lot of Jewish people said “we must never let this happen again,” but some motherfuckers took notes.
  
  Everyone post-WW2: "Never again"
  Some people: "Never again should that be inflicted on anyone"
  Other people: "Never again should that be inflicted on the Jewish"
  
  "We must learn from the past" vs "We must learn from the past"

The scary part is they very much may just do that. NSO Group is based outta Israel, it's honestly terrifying. The man has much larger balls than some may realize.
- What're they gonna do? Fail to gather basic intelligence on him before he invades their country? Oooh he's so scared
  
  Their mercenary software is no joke. They will own your phone without you noticing, and once they own your phone, they own you. This is like silencing journalists if you're a nation state 101
- Just do what? It sounds like you're saying they'd hurt the journalist but the only context available makes it seem like you could be talking about the onion headline.
  Edit: Did a little reading, fuck they're scary.
  
  IDK about this group in particular but at the moment Israel holds the record for most journalists murdered in wartime.
  
  NSO is apparently quite formidable in terms of hacking as well, to the point where apple actively sued them: https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2021/11/apple-sues-nso-group-to-curb-the-abuse-of-state-sponsored-spyware/
- and so is zipoapps

DARVO
The battle cry of abusive assholes, worldwide!

...did he get his prize?
- if anything, it was probably a death threat.
- Should've snitched on himself for the prize

Astoundingly based

wasn't that the account that was posting all sorts of transphobia right before oct 7th and they switched?
- i assume the anti semetism account right?
  
  yeah not elias :)

Why the fuck is anyone for any reason using twitter anymore?
- Yeah, kind of ironic they are still using it
  
  Look at the dates. The article is also from 2018

Israeli neozionist troll factory attempts have never really shied away from the public, with the most notable example being Act.IL, but that doesn't make them harmless. Giving your identity away like this is the same as giving away your identity to Scientologists, expect a serious degree of gaslighting and bullshit to be headed the way of your personal and professional life.
And I do mean serious, because with extremists and radicals getting the reigns of government thanks to Netanyahu, foreign intervention having been normalized to such an excessive degree, and countries letting them get away with it so freely, expect the requirements to get labeled as part of a "problem group" to become significantly easier to achieve. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mossad#Europe

The genocide will continue until morale improves

I am Spartacus

Thought this was gonna be a Bill Maher meme at first.
Okaaay NEW RULE