The cool thing about inflation "plummeting" is that it doesn't undo the damage high inflation already did. Food is still massively more expensive than it was a year ago, weirdly enough that bothers people.
"Inflation is down" Ok and? Damage is still done from the insane rate it was at, and thanks to the austerity measures the admin took (like raising interest rates), things are arguably worse
I know someone like this, and it's weird because he is not doing well in this economy. I don't get how people lie to themselves about how economics work.
"Inflation plummeted from going up very very very fast to just going up very fast"
That's not how plummeting works. Inflation hasn't gone down, prices are in fact still going up. They are in fact higher now than they were before.
"Oh but you need inflation" yeah if you're a fucking idiot classical economist that thinks people receiving a fair wage is the worst possible thing to happen.
Being forced to learn partial differential equations and command economics to fuck with Libertarians "but muh calculation problem" is a curse because it illustrates just how badly the lanyard class fails to understand their own economic arguments for maintaining power.
Wasn’t the calculation problem only a “problem “ when humans didn’t have quantum computing and hadn’t been exposed to exponentially increasing rates of processing power?
People talk about “Econ 101”, but even in my actual Macro 101 course, taught by a libertarian professor, we had good discussions about how broad metrics like “GDP growth”, “inflation”, or “unemployment” in themselves can be distorted or meaningless without drilling down and really understanding the numbers. The example the prof used was talking about a low unemployment rate but if a lot of people have just given up looking for work then just looking at that one rate will tell you very little about what’s really going on.
I just think it’s that libs know the economy sucks and are scared shitless because a bad economy means Trump wins.
The whole “econ 101” bit has always been hilarious to me because in any other field of study I feel like the general understanding is a “101” course, undergrad whatever, is going to be intentionally simplified for the purposes of teaching broader ideas but as you learn more you find these explanations are inadequate on many levels. With economics however that surface level understanding is apparently enough to allow you to speak with confidence
Exactly. This is the level of understanding employed by those saying that the economy is doing well. It's a cynical tactic to paint it in a rosy light as the wage workers struggle.
Also, I've only been through 100 level econ classes and it's clear that the economic metrics in use are not particularly meaningful.
I just think it’s that libs know the economy sucks
Many will admit it, but they believe it is either unavoidable or delayed effects from Trump (may be partially true)
As well, the natural cycle of capitalist crisis leads people to think that a downturn is in fact a good thing because it means the recovery is already coming. It shields systemic flaws and corruption from any attention because obvious wrongs are construed as natural.
The 5% unemployment goal is to ensure there's a reserve army of labor to depress wages. You're absolutely right that libs are ignoring the cognitive dissonance of ignoring that part of their ideology.
Why are american libs so scared of a trump win? There's literally no substantial difference between the worthless incumbent president of the us and his worthless political opponent
Because they believe his unconventional rhetoric as leading to policy that's harmful for the nation - meanwhile those who love him think it's the exact needed strategy to Make America Great Again
They know Trump isn't different; it's a question of perceived strategic differences.
Trump is doing nazi dog whistling and his cabinet members will be less competent and probably have worse traits like some of them thinking America needs to be a Christian state.
I think federal spending on things that directly help people will be higher under Biden [source I made it up]
Trump actively spreads a message of hate and intolerance by telling his fans that minorities are bad, so giving him a bigger platform would be a bad thing
Those are some of the reasons bouncing around in my head of why trump is worse
The example the prof used was talking about a low unemployment rate but if a lot of people have just given up looking for work then just looking at that one rate will tell you very little about what’s really going on.
That's something everyone in Italy and Poland knows lol, the joys of long economic crises.
if a lot of people have just given up looking for work then just looking at that one rate will tell you very little about what’s really going on.
And this is exactly what's going on. Why are people going to even bother applying when is so picky? If everyone "only hires the best" and I'm not "the best" why should I even bother applying?
I choose to believe that Ward Sutton's cartoons under his own name are a bit he's doing. I'd rather believe he's mocking typical liberal editorial cartoons than face reality. I refuse to believe that the guy behind Kelly is some Biden defending, Ukraine flag liberal dork who deserve a wedgie. I instead choose to believe Ward Sutton is another character, the inverse of Kelly. His dark shadow if you will
Like I've already been through enough in my life by seeing what happened to William Gibson and Jello Biafra. How those two are liberals will always perplex me. I refuse to lose Kelly too. In the deep recesses of my heart lives a sicko from today until eternity
Exactly this. I'm sick of people saying "The Economy™" is doing so damn well. Never has it been clearer that there are many economies, 2 of which are the economy of the investor and the economy of the working class*. The absolute tone deafness of statements about "perception mismatch" only serves to illustrate the brutality of class conflict. It's not a misperception of reality, we're living in 2 different realities.
*Also the economy of the impoverished and the black market among others.
Bit idea: convince liberals that bourgeois media is lying about Biden's economy as a capital strike to sabotage the most pro-labor president in history, and that's why we need to nationalize the media companies.
Much like Warhammer 40K Orks, the economy is only broken if you believe it's broken. As long as you keep saying "this is the best the economy has ever been", everything will keep working just fine.
People somehow forget the economy was due for a recession under Trump until COVID hit and resulted in the whole 'Steve Mnuchin unsupervised handout of $500B leveraged 10-to-1 into $5T' happened. Not to mention the PPP loan program.
If it weren't merely fucking with the numbers, it could be explained by massive inflation in 2022 and stabilising peices in 2023. As much as this is partially true, western governments really pushed the calculations to not get double digits in 2022, then to get optimistic numbers, healing and all that shit in 2023.
It means prices are (supposedly, I am not American so don't know the situation there) rising slower (but still rising) - bourgeois economists believe prices rising by 1,5% to 3% every year is a good thing, who cares if the wages don't?
But alas, their job is to make businesses happy, not proles.
Hey, if we're lucky this might at least give us another four years to pack our shit and leave until the 'more competent fascist' steps in.....
Who am I kidding? Biden is the more competent fascist. He literally has the public begging for MORE austerity, moving MORE to the right, and they want to vote him out because he's not fascist enough. That's a more competent fascist if I ever heard one.
I think we'll be talking about the 2021-2022 inflation for the rest of our lives as the COVID era is incorporated into textbooks etc. Fundamentally it was a supply shock from the initial wave of tightening in 2020. I believe doing nothing would've gotten us the same result with inflation "plummeting" to 3.2% YoY as supply caught up with the disruption. Increasing interest rates is simply bloodletting that hasn't killed us yet - quacks are patting themselves on the back but we're not out of their grasp yet. Sometime in the future the intervention will be disproven.