Get out and vote!

Slightly OT, but this is also why we absolutely need ranked voting ASAP. How much better would a candidate like Sanders do if people knew that voting for him as first choice and Biden as second was possible?

This is posted in political humor, but unfortunately, it's not a joke.

As a Canadian looking from the outside in, it really does seem to be trending in that direction… any further Republican wins will mean the end of democracy, with America sliding into a ChristoFascist Autocracy.

I fear for my American neighbours, but we have similar problems up here; we just happen to be a decade or so behind you folk.

This was the same promise in 2020. And yet here we are. Democrats should have done better than beg to save democracy one more time.

I don't know much about US politics, but is Biden the only choice you have besides voting for Trump? There's zero alternatives? I've seen in the comments that people prefer Biden to other democrat candidates, because he already beat Trump already, so it has better chances to beat him again. But realistically, it seems like everyone hates Trump with a burning passion, so any Democrat that is not batshit insane and totally incompetent would beat him, right? Seems like an easy win.

Weird, I was sold almost the exact same line in 2020.

Joe Biden has the authority to resign. Joe Biden can choose to not run in 2024. If he cared about preserving democracy, he would let someone more electible take his place.

If things go wrong, it's the fault of the people in power.

I look at this fom a far and i wonder: Why do the democrats not just get a younger more capable person to vote for?

As we all know, politics only happens when you vote for president every 4 years.

Your democracy has bugs..

This is the same tired line we have to hear every 4 years. It's been a substitute for concrete policy and it's gotten all of us nowhere.

Maybe the democrats should pull their heads up from their asses and realize that "vote for us or else" doesn't have the rallying power they think it does, especially when they're repeating it every election cycle.

Just some thoughts from someone outside the US.

We literally do not live in a democracy according to a bunch of empirical studies, and also according to basic material analysis.

The opinion of the masses is never reflected in our government.

Does your politics begin and end at participating in sham elections? Why aren't you encouraging people to take meaningful political action?

Imagine being Russian and the extent of your political activism is encouraging people to vote Putin out.

That's how ridiculous you are.

Fuck em both I’m voting for Brandon.

It's sad how the US spends trillions on defense, when all it takes to seize control over the nation is some bottom tier Dollar Store propaganda that any third world nation could afford.

Most lib shit ever. "Every election is the most important one". When are people going to realize you are always voting for rich fuckers who don't care about you

Man the Democratic Party this election cycle has just been working overtime to invite the conversational wedge between 'saving american democracy from fascism' and 'voting against Trump.'

I guess that's what the donor class wants this time: "Do nothing but vote."

More like "It doesn't matter how you vote, the evil party is going to win because the slightly-less-evil party just lost a large chunk of their voter base because funding a ethnic genocide in the middle east was a hill they were dying on"

Do your part by voting for the slightly less shit party, but don't be surprised when it happens anyway, they're counting on it. They want it. Whenever they need to do something evil they can just throw the election so the republicans can take the hit for them, just like every time.

There are no next gen democrats. They only think one single election at a time.

Oh, I'm sure they would still hold elections. But your options would be even more limited. "Sorry, but the other parties just didn't run any candidates for this election. Imagine that."

This is the only argument left for Democrats.

there's a 19yo candidate ? looks like I'm completely out of the loop

and here are the results of the strategy of voting for the lesser evil

What do our findings say about democracy in America? They certainly constitute troubling news for advocates of “populistic” democracy, who want governments to respond primarily or exclusively to the policy preferences of their citizens. In the United States, our findings indicate, the majority does not rule—at least not in the causal sense of actually determining policy outcomes. When a majority of citizens disagrees with economic elites or with organized interests, they generally lose. Moreover, because of the strong status quo bias built into the U.S. political system, even when fairly large majorities of Americans favor policy change, they generally do not get it.

I vote for old person

It's still a year out why do we have to believe these are our only two options.

This hits 100% true.

This was the exact shit said in 2020 and for years before that. There is no 'next generation Democrat' because the Dems are just as complicit in this farce as the Republicans. I refuse to vote for the party of "maybe we'll try to slow the rapid descent into christofascist capitalism just a little a bit, as long as it doesn't make the shareholders mad."

Not humorous and also not good faith discourse. This is just moralizing even though I agree with the sentiment

Voting for Joe Brandon is a no brainer.

Incorrect, Vote 3rd party and make a difference.

Situation sucks. But, with Cheeto chimp it'll suck 1000X more.

Don't be complacent. Don't be apathetic.

I'm writing in Hamas in 2024

and how would our right to vote be taken away? fearmongerers

That's where youre wrong. There are more than 2 parties. The 2 party system is atrocious.

Both are too old to run. Honestly, I don't think Joe would make it another 4 years.

Oh fucking can it

unless Biden helped to take your ability to vote away

just leaves older people voting and people who will eat anything they are served

no wonder we only have two parties the ones who are willing to vote third are not able to vote

Uh or we can vote for the independent left and not some capitalist who belongs in a retirement home

They said this shit in 2016. Last time I checked Trump isn't president anymore.

This dumb scare rethoric isn't gonna make anyone vote for Genocide Joe anymore. The terror Dems must learn.

Just because it's true doesn't mean it isn't bullshit. We're fucked.

I predict this goes one of three or four ways:

Trump wins the Republican nomination.

 Biden steps down and that Newsome guy runs as a Democrat.

Biden runs for re-election against Trump and there will be a third candidate to split the vote someway.

Newsome actually wins the Republican nomination and changes the Republican party, like a lot.

DeSantis pulls a miracle and wins the Republican nomination and the election becomes a four way with Biden, Trump, DeSantis, and someone else (probably Newsome).

If Trump wanted to get rid of voting, why didn't he do so last time? How about we just get better security at the capitol, and eliminate whatever loophole he was trying to use in the insurrection?

If your point is I'm going to be a dick, then just say I'm going to be a dick, and be that dick. Dick.

Why do I have vote for the next gen Dem in 2028? Is this post implying Trump will continue running until his death? That the GOP will be unable to shelve his candidacy after another loss--and I have to imagine increasing incoherency?

Hmmm... I think I'll go for the second this time around.

I'd also vote for DeSantis or Ramaswami this election. I refuse to vote for Biden (or whoever is calling the shots behind him), or Harris, or Newsom.

Seriously, how is it possible that my own party can't get their shit together and find an actually likable candidate that can at least convince me they might be doing it for my own interests?

The downvotes on this post are incredibly suspect for lemmy.ml.

The logic of the picture is dumb as fuck.

If Trump was able to pull off something like this, wouldn't he have done it during his first term?

boooo. boooooooo. booooooooooo

If the dems run Biden again it's clear the MIC is the one picking the president not us.

If it's Biden again, I'm going 3rd party for life.

Never voting again sounds good to me, since that way people would realize how pointless it is. Unfortunately neither option will lead to that outcome and people will pat themselves on the back after voting for the Capitalist party.