Looking for FOSS android TV (or something like Kodi, but dumber)
Looking for FOSS android TV (or something like Kodi, but dumber)
I've been looking for something to replace the google chromecast that is attached to our TV.
I've tried Kodi out, but the main use case for the TV set is a 70+ yo person watching netflix and there is just no way they will be better off with Kodi than with the stock netflix app.
Besides supporting netflix, being easy to use, and providing significantly better privacy than the chromecast does, the device would ideally:
- support other mainstream streaming (amazon, disney, ...) for when my people get tired of netflix
- support a DVB-T2 usb stick (directly, or through IPTV: I can put the stick in a different machine)
- support youtube without ads (through an adblocker and possibly sponsorblock, or maybe using invidious)
- possibly, support local public TV streaming (eg. BBC)
I have a PC set aside that should be more than capable enough (intel N100), but I'm open to getting new hardware if needed. Also, it doesn't matter if the system is not very user friendly to setup (eg. if it needs to be nixos), but once it's setup it should be easy to use and relatively straightforward to update/maintain.
I guess a FOSS android TV would be ideal, but.. is there any? (I see Lineage supports the Google ADT-3, but that is basically unobtanium, at least where I live).
Take your PC that you set aside, install the Stremio FlatPak, sign up for a Debrid Service, and use the Torrentio plugin for Stremio.
Raspberry Pi 4 + Konstakang LineageOS TV
I think it will come for RPI 5 too but as for now there's only for the 4
For the ad-less YouTube I use SmartTube
How would this work with Dolby Atmos, Dolby TrueHD, DTS-X , DTS-HD, etc? Would you need an AVR for that?
I have no clue, to be honest. Maybe you can find more info on Konstakang's site.
I never asked myself those questions because I have literally the cheapest TV with an HDMI port I could find
I am looking to use Android tv and Kodi for offline use in an RV and I think this is what I’ll try next. Didn’t want to have to buy another shield pro just to do that.
I had this same problem. I ultimately just put a Linux computer on my TV with standard Ubuntu.
I gave up
What additional software did you end up installing? Something like kodi? Anything for live TV/OTA?
And how easy is your setup to control with a TV remote form factor?
I have the same, but Netflix is then a miserable experience on my 4K TV.
Louis Rossmann made a video on this. It's called why I dtopped paying for Netflix. Of you have a smart tv, they want you to use the native app or else they limit your definition.
To actually answer your question, the Banana Pi supports Lineage os. https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/#banana-pi
I'm not sure if Netflix will work on Lineage os but it might be worth a look.
That's a great tip! I didn't know lineage supported Android TV on SBCs
As for Netflix on Lineage: it does work (at least w/ microg - I just tried on my phone), but you won't find the app in aurora store so you'll have to source it on apkmirror or the like.
Not sure why Netflix wouldn't be on the Aurora store. Anyway, I did use android TV on an OdroidXU4 for a few months. It worked well with an air mouse and made it work like a regular android TV. Only issue I had with it sometimes was getting it to wake up after being asleep for some time, but that issue could have been ROM+odroid (or air mouse) specific.
I use my Chromecast with ATV home pro & disabled the home screen entirely. Then I used smart tube next for ad free YouTube and Plex for anything else.
The original(2021) walmart streaming box is like $20, it has custom roms for it. It has the same specs as the 4k Chromecast with androidtv. The 2023 version doesnt seem to have any roms(at least on xda), but can still be rooted.
I'm also currently looking for one as we really want to ditch our Nvidia Shield Pro. However the shield has so many features and codecs that I'm unsure if there's such thing.
You should be able to run Lineage on the shield (double check the specific model)... maybe you can try that and re-flash the stock OS if it doesn't work for you.
I don't want to be rude but I don't think Netflix is Foss in the least.
My friend, someone can be a FOSS enthusiast and still consume things that are proprietary.
How? Something being proprietary is not Foss or free software. It might be open source but that term is weak.
I respect your beliefs but I must say, I disagree.
To actually answer your question, the Banana Pi supports Lineage os. https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/#banana-pi
I'm not sure if Netflix will work on Lineage os but it might be worth a look.
FOSS stands for free/libre and open source. For something to be libre it has to meet the 4 freedoms. Proprietary software doesn't do that.
I don't mean to start a holy war but FOSS doesn't mean DRM streaming services. I appreciate the sentiment but I wanted to take the time to explain why many will disagree with your statement
You are 100% right: netflix not being open is less than ideal, both from a freedom standpoint and for the privacy implications of it.
However, my 70+yo relative does not care about FOSS or even about their own privacy for that matter... since I, however, do care about their privacy, I'd like to pragmatically find something that may be better than a chromecast privacy-wise, while not being so much worse (or radically different) from it that they'll ask me to "put the old thingy back - I can't use this nerdy shit" :)
What happened to roku? Is it not open source?
It's closed-source AFAIK (also, not sure how it is privacy-wise)
What about one of the Chinese TV boxes? For example = https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005533473983.html
Most don't support HD streaming due to lack of certification, the UI is mobile not AndroidTV, and many can include malware
I have a box (X96 Max+), with a custom ROM, comes with only the essencial, but AndroidTV itself is not FOSS, the launcher and other services are proprietary, without it is just AOSP.
You can check the supported devices on the site
https://slimboxtv.ru/Aren't most of those at best vulnerable as a leaf in the wind; and at worst literal hacker gateways to your home?
Yeah you wouldn't catch me even considering one of those monstrosities.
Google-certified Android TV devices aren't known to receive security updates either.
As much as I dislike Google spying on my relatives, I'd rather them be spied by Google than by some Chinese entity (BTW: their spying would probably not be on top of Google's)