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Yes let's not blame Hamas for building their bases in these places. Let's not acknowledge that Hamas is still launching rockets every day at cities full of civilians. Let's ignore that Hamas exclusively targets civilians. Let's avoid that. Let's only blame Israel.
Note the keyword there: only
This is what happens when fake leftists apply their aesthetic politics to everything. They start unironically doing apologism for terrorist governments.
Should Israel have never supported Hamas to undermine Palestine? Absolutely. Should we be apologizing for Hamas' war crimes? No.
Why is it that when Jews defend themselves from vicious terrorist attacks, relentless wars, and a region of the world that considers extermination of Jews as a reasonable political position we sit over here and see them as white occupiers in a land that best we can tell was originally theirs and traded hands dozens of times inbetween. Even the Palestinians there drove out the Turks at the end of WWI. Where is the justice for them?
Oh fugg off with this whataboutism. No shit fuck Hamas. I don't know anyone who actually support them except fringe, terminally online leftists. As Palestinian civilians (read: children) die people decry and ask dO yOu ConDemN HaMas?! I watched a video after one of the, bombings by israel, of people transported injured on a mattress. One of the individuals was a child with their head blown open. A fucking child.
Do you condemn Israel?!? Do you condemn Israel??? Do you condemn Israel???
Every dead civilian is one too much.
If this was America people would be going so hard against Israel. But of course they need to "defend" themselves from the Palestinian children. They have to bomb hospitals, ambulances, refugee camps, schools, and murder journalists.
White Americans: WE STOLE THIS LAND 400 YEARS AGO, GET OVER IT!
Also White Americans: ISRAEL BELONGED TO THE JEWISH PEOPLE 2000+ YEARS AGO, THEY DESERVE IT NOW!
It's also worth pointing out what should be obvious - there was no Christianity or Islam 2000+ years ago. The fact the modern Palestinian population is Christian and Muslim doesn't mean they came from somewhere else!
Not to mention that nearly every known map we have from all eras of time prior to 1950 show that region as Palestine.
Why is does that gets down voted? Every Time someone says: "Hey Hamas is also doing atrocious things, lets blame both!" People get so ridiculously pissed off. And I have no Idea why.
But I'm with you on this one! Fuck Hamas. They are Terrorist and the civilians of Palestine deserve so much more then these bastards.
Yeah Fuck the Warsaw uprising. There’s no Reason to ever rise up against your oppressors. They should be content to go through the legal process to change things. Israel has never committed actions that make peaceful protest impossible, like shooting over 3000 Palestinians who were in a peaceful dance off at the edge of their concentration camp. I mean, Israel is only going after Hamas, it’s not like they’ve been systematically bombing the West Bank, where there is no Hamas presence. They’re only going after the leadership, which is why they’re bombing Lebanon, not Gaza, because as we all know, none of Hamas leadership resides in Gaza.
You just set up a pretty Strawmen here. I've said nothing about any of this. You just sling this at me with no real connection, so it's basically angry rambling with nothing inside.
I am concerned about any civilians getting killed or harmed in any way. But you seem to be angry that I say it's not okay to kill civilians for anyone. Why is that?
Why can't you just acknowledge that it's not okay to kill civilians of any kind? Or is it that you just want a special group of civilians killed? Please tell me because now you just seem to support the killing of a group of civilians you don't like for what reason whatsoever.
Settlers aren’t civilians, they are agents of the state whose express purpose is to colonize and settle lands the settler colonial nation state they represent have claimed. It’s the same reason that the US sent settlers ahead of where they intended to dispossess indigenous groups. It gives a cover for their inevitable escalatory retaliation when the indigenous are forced to turn to violence to protect themselves. These tactics have been analyzed for hundreds of years, and they don’t work on people who actually read history. If you want to be an Israeli civilian, live in Israel’s territory, not the illegally occupied settlements.
But Hamas is not only targeting settlers. Even IF they were agents, which is just a complete exaggeration. So again, why don't you say killing civilians is wrong? Why do you want to defend people who willingly target them?
It’s not only not an exaggeration, it’s a clearly stated intention of settler colonist societies. Maybe read some history books, I can recommend a few.
Do you condemn the Warsaw Uprising? They didn’t target only Nazis, so they must have been unjustified, right?
Why do you always distract? Please answer.
I don’t respond to bad faith questions. It’s a debate bro tactic, and I’m not here to debate you.
You know what? I don't feel like dealing with you. You will not change your mind and neither do I. And both of us can't change a thing about this war. So I'm done with you.
Taliban, Hamas, ISIS, MAGA, Zionism I think we can all agree are bad and shouldn't be engaged or listened to or donated to.