Investigation disproves Israel claim of Hamas tunnel under Gaza hospital
Investigation disproves Israel claim of Hamas tunnel under Gaza hospital
The hatch Israel claimed was a Hamas tunnel is only a water reservoir for the hospital
So where are we at right now?
"We didn't bomb the hospital, Hamas did. And even if we bombed the hospital, Hamas used it as a base. And even if they didn't, a some of them were in there. And even if they weren't, there were Hamas tunnels under the hospital."
I wonder what's next
"The civilians there deserved to be bombed because they supported Hamas"
Wait, didn't we do that one already?
They were enemy combatants because they were within bombing radius of an enemy combatant. That was the American logic in Iraq and Afghanistan in order to print more humane-looking civilian casualty numbers
"The hospital was never bombed. All the pictures are fake, all the victims are crisis actors."
Step the Last: YOU'RE AN ANTISEMITIC ASSHOLE!
Probably hates America and all the awesome stuff it stands for
Note that this article mentions the "Hamad bin Khalifa" hospital.
The article does not claim to disprove the claim that under the "al-Shifa" hospital there is a Hamas base
They're two different hospitals
Now that Israel is openly bombing hospitals I don't think it's unreasonable to assume they lied about the
al-Shifa hospital.oop it was Al-Ahli hospital I can't keep all of these atrocities straight!
We didn’t bomb the hospital, Hamas did
We are here still, because to my knowledge no evidence of the "people in the parking lot" bombing being from Israel has come around and most traits of the explosion point to it being a Hamas rocket.
Even this article doesn't say anything about evidence to the contrary coming forward.
You clearly have no clue what you're talking about. The hospital you're referring to is Al-Ahli Arab Hospital. And the "rocket" from the footage you're referring to has been proven to have been an Iron Dome projectile.
Israel has also attacked Al-Shifa hospital, Al-Quds hospital, the Indonesian hospital, the Turkish-Palestinian Friendship hospital, and the Qatari hospital described in the article.
There was no Hamas or tunnels when they massacred Palestinians in Tantura in 1948
There was no Hamas or tunnels when they massacred Palestinians in Khan Yunis in 1956
Israel never needed an excuse they just need a lie to sell to the rest of the world now that everyone is watching
The simplest explanation is that if Israel knew where Hamas is, they would have taken them out before any attack by Hamas. They don't know.
Hamas leadership is in Qatar.
Seems like they learned from uncle sam how to empire.
I wonder how quick world leaders will backtrack their support for genocide once more misinformation is disproven…
My bet is that we will be waiting a looooooooooooooooooooooooooong time
It's nuts to me how there was a recent poll showing Biden taking a hit in swing states, presumably because of the wide and unprecedented public support for Palestinian freedom, and how the reaction among some liberals is turning in to, "Biden's support for genocide is bad now because Trump could win again." Criticizing the US supporting the genocide, through the spectacle of partisan politics, turns in to, "this is how you get another Trump victory." Instead of vocalizing the disapproval, it's like "don't say anything because it could help Trump."
Cue some liberals telling us "tough shit, vote for Biden anyway" You're right talking about it in a partisan lens is a huge problem. The government is meant to represent us, all we should need to do is make sure they know how we feel.
shocked Pikachu face
Who could have foreseen Israel lying?
The video apparently states that this info is 8 years old and doesn't really prove either way, whether hamas was digging tunnels under the hospital.
You... You get out of here with your 'reading' and 'common sense' and and 'considered opinions'! Heathen!
One of these days the IDF is gonna fuck up and accidentally tell the truth.
There have been plenty of Isreali politicians and military people openly saying they are punishing the people of Gaza and want to ethnically cleanse the place.
No tunnels but surprise Saddam Hussien!
To the shock of probably 1 pro isreal tech bro
You severely underestimate the support for Israel outside of your bubble.
lol.. their time is up
I mean regardless of the support Isreal has or not, what I said was still technically correct
I genuinely don't care about Hamas anymore, they're symptoms of a greater evil, Israel is directly responsible for the radicalization of those people, because of the horrific conditions Palestinians are put in.
One side is right and the other is wrong… I suppose nobody considered this possibility and the answer was in front of us all this time. Looks like we found the key to fixing the Middle East. Well done!
Hmmm they go from one country to another trying to take over the government that let them in. Egypt, Jordan, Saudi wont let them in either... wonder who that can be ???? s/
Blowing up hospitals for god
However, Sanad’s investigation shows that this is simply the access hatch for a water reservoir that the hospital uses to fill therapeutic pools for amputees, water the grounds, and a reserve water source in case of emergency.
Sanad analysed satellite footage and archives of the hospital’s construction and spoke to one of the original engineers who built it.
It's pretty in depth.
However I have two problems with this logic.
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Israel did not confirm the existence of tunnels at that location, which would have been an easy thing to do with a camera and 2 minutes.
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This isn't exactly proof that those areas weren't repurposed for tunnels. Just that what Israel thought was a tunnel was not. Which is more of a problem of how the Israel military is assuming too much and bombing people in the process. While processing their assumptions like fact.
Their "proof" was a 3d render with tunnel systems throughout the entire hospital so no matter where they blew up, it was valid. They even had weapons on walls and red barrels so you know it was a bad guy base.
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Where's the video of the IDF or Netanyahu going over a 3D rendering of a hospital to explain how the Hamas tunnels may be underneath key infrastructure buildings?
The propaganda coming out of the IDF justifying their next move is always so insanrly ridiculous. But I guess if there's now videos coming out of how and where these tunnels are, the IDF might find some more accuracy in their violence.
"It's almost as if." No worries.
A small price to pay to find tho!
I am so glad this got posted here so we can have a discussion about it after it was locked on Lemmy World.
Man haven't been to lemmy in a while but I see it's overrun with idiots now
Note that this article mentions the "Hamad bin Khalifa" hospital.
The article does not claim to disprove the claim that under the "al-Shifa" hospital there is a Hamas base.
They're two different hospitals.
In other words, it is so far uncontested that there is a Hamas base under the al-Shifa hospital (which is the main hospital in Gaza).
The fact that we have to specify which of the hospitals they've blown up really sucks.
Happens when your enemy has 0 regard for using their civilian shields. And Hamas purposely does it because they know white leftists on lemmy and reddit adjacent communities to go insane over it. You'd think that at some point the Palestinian population would get rid of the only real existential threat they can get rid of. Hamas and their associates.
The World: Hey you may have committed a war crime.
Your Response: It's okay though, nobody can prove we committed a war crime in this other location!
What is wrong with you?
So they did an analysis of 1 hospital that had hamas fighters in the hospital launching rockets within 200ft of the premises... and found that the IDF was mistaken about a tunnel at 1 of their claims... even though there is video footage of tunnels at other hospital locations, this particular one is false so that takes away credence to all claims.
And these claims for the qatar hospital is being made by the qatar news network. ok gotcha
What do you think the H stands for in H2O?
Israel is doing the best it can do in a difficult moral situation.
I wish I could block sources as well as users.